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12/17/2014 Live Update

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Re: 12/17/2014 Live Update

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VIX could be starting to show some weakness..
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Re: 12/17/2014 Live Update

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paging mrMyagi ... :o
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Re: 12/17/2014 Live Update

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Re: 12/17/2014 Live Update

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SigmaEcho wrote:paging mrMyagi ... :o
Do you have a block trade to match that?
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FlowerGirl wrote::geek: FG point of view post will appear ~1:30 EST :geek:
Untill then stay cool...
I am waiting with bated breath.
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FG, i come here to see what Cobra says and to hear others and their opinions. I do not come here to watch anyone try and convince the forum that their opinions are superior or to have to wade through cryptic posts about what someone is doing. I have noticed that you are only cryptic about what you are about to do while quite clear about what you claim to have done. Why is that?

One might deduce that it is all an illusion. If you really want respect, post your trades clearly and let us judge you on your actual work instead of what you claim do have done after the time has passed.
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Re: 12/17/2014 Live Update

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Various ways to profit off the 77% gap drop to the p-bar on DWTI.

Buy XLE or ERX
Invest in solid energy names that you trust
Buy puts on DWTI
Sell puts on USO or buy calls on USO
Buy oil futures

etc....many options

My preference is to own ERX and I have call options on PSX, which is an unbelievable value right now.
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Re: 12/17/2014 Live Update

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SigmaEcho wrote:paging mrMyagi ... :o
is that a P-bar, or you just drew it :))) OMG , but i do not see in my IB trader.
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Re: 12/17/2014 Live Update

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chetas wrote:
SigmaEcho wrote:paging mrMyagi ... :o
is that a P-bar, or you just drew it :))) OMG , but i do not see in my IB trader.

I see it on Stockcharts.
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Re: 12/17/2014 Live Update

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This was an email exchange with my father who's banked over 100% in PSX. He has a spreadsheet with all the Graham/Buffett type formulas on it to calculate value.

I did "spreadsheet" calculations on what I call the stock "value" (some formula I found using last 12 months earnings and future estimated earnings growth), and the "Graham value" which is based only on book value and last 12 months earnings.

Note that these values for oil companies tend to be larger than those of most other companies I track - perhaps due to the increased risk premium in the oil sector. Anyway, I compared PSX to CVX and used the values relative to the current stock price so the 2 numbers can be compared to each other -- so the higher the better.

Graham values vs. current price (mostly current performance): PSX = 1.26, CVX = 1.41.

"Value" vs current price (future/current performance): PSX = 4.28, CVX = 2.03

The value index for PSX is off the charts compared to every other stock I track except AAPL which is still only 3.69. The average for all the stocks I track is 1.47.
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Re: 12/17/2014 Live Update

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chetas wrote:
SigmaEcho wrote:paging mrMyagi ... :o
is that a P-bar, or you just drew it :))) OMG , but i do not see in my IB trader.


copyright

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Re: 12/17/2014 Live Update

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Out of Bounds wrote:
chetas wrote:
SigmaEcho wrote:paging mrMyagi ... :o
is that a P-bar, or you just drew it :))) OMG , but i do not see in my IB trader.

I see it on Stockcharts.
...and now it's gone. It was down around the 185 area
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Re: 12/17/2014 Live Update

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SigmaEcho wrote:paging mrMyagi ... :o
eek wtf? well I'm short so meh
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Re: 12/17/2014 Live Update

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K447 wrote:
SigmaEcho wrote:paging mrMyagi ... :o
Do you have a block trade to match that?


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Re: 12/17/2014 Live Update

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100% mm? not sure.
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Re: 12/17/2014 Live Update

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Out of Bounds wrote:
chetas wrote:
SigmaEcho wrote:paging mrMyagi ... :o
is that a P-bar, or you just drew it :))) OMG , but i do not see in my IB trader.

I see it on Stockcharts.
I see it also on stockcharts right now. spy daily.
bearish as of SPY 406 on 2/17/23
currently: end bearish as of SPY 406 on 3/6/23
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Re: 12/17/2014 Live Update

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NASDAQ looking weak here
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Re: A Message from the Underworld

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Out of Bounds wrote: I have noticed that you are only cryptic about what you are about to do while quite clear about what you claim to have done. Why is that?

One might deduce that it is all an illusion.
This is what I said I plan to do. [Heads Up]
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1518&p=179110#p179110
Here is why? [What I am looking at ]
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1518&p=179118#p179118
Here is when I did it. [The Action]
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1518&p=179138#p179138
Here is the outcome... [The outcome]
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1518&p=179228#p179228

Tell me what is cryptic about above and
Where is the illusion?
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Re: A Message from the Underworld

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FlowerGirl wrote:
Out of Bounds wrote: I have noticed that you are only cryptic about what you are about to do while quite clear about what you claim to have done. Why is that?

One might deduce that it is all an illusion.
This is what I said I plan to do.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1518&p=179110#p179110
Here is why?
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1518&p=179118#p179118
Here is when I did it.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1518&p=179138#p179138
Here is the outcome...
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1518&p=179228#p179228

Tell me what is cryptic about above and
Where is the illusion?
Perhaps you simply just don't know how to communicate clearly and concisely.
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Re: 12/17/2014 Live Update

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No need for further dialogue.
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Re: 12/17/2014 Live Update

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Short SPY 199.27
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