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It works sometimes in daily and weekly timeframes. I dont trust anything below that. Here is one that failed in a weekly timeframe itself.BullBear52x wrote:Wow you guys are so chatty, Who said Neg D doesn't work? watch this.
I must missed lots of good music today, Amy Winehouse ha? sad out come for her.Al_Dente wrote:Hi apple. not sure what 1:45 was? This covering is relentless…. (nyadv did not yet confirm this new high….not yet)Apple wrote:Al_Dente wrote:waverider wrote:loved amy tooAl_Dente wrote:....loved amy
do you note a change at about 1:45 today?
[PS: Nice one Uempel, love her live]
For all other Amy fans… If you’ve seen Tony’s promos for his new album…. He said (paraphrased) “She was the real deal, like Ella, like Billie, she had it all right there, BIG time…”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OFMkCeP6ok&ob=av2e
Groupon gets priced tonight and they need to put a lot of lipstick on this pig to make it a success.uempel wrote:Something real big must happen Friday morning so that SPX can jump overhead resistance
Not much of a re-test of 126.45proteus46 wrote:SPY headed to 126.46 before end of day
I don't follow IWM, but $RUT with TZA and TNA have always followed the same patteren except when TNA gets divided once or twice \year.LOSER wrote:Tabby:
Thanks for explain. I understand what you said. My question is they 1. are usually not the same proportion, and 2.whether the MMs compare and make the price the same proportion during trading.
BullBear52x wrote:load up bears, Laugh at me tomorrow.
haha. yeah i'm not sure if that means you're bearish or bullish?? lolMe XMan wrote:Huh?
BullBear52x wrote:load up bears, Laugh at me tomorrow.
Wall of worry is what I call it. Nice work today Cobra...tomorrow we find out about that higher high.Cobra wrote:you can see it as double top or kiss the trend line goodbye, but the price need breakdown to confirm, don't forget it could be Cup with Handle, so hard to say now, although doesn't look pretty so far.
pady wrote:It works sometimes in daily and weekly timeframes. I dont trust anything below that. Here is one that failed in a weekly timeframe itself.BullBear52x wrote:Wow you guys are so chatty, Who said Neg D doesn't work? watch this.
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=%5ER ... =undefined look at this chart. Note that there are losses associated with using 3x bull or bear. Note the center line between tza and tna. down 30% year to date. Most losses or non uniformity between RUT and TNA will occur on large price swings. Nasty business.Tabby wrote:Loser,Cobra wrote:To explain this requires lots of typing, you can search online, lots of discussion there. In short, TNA/TZA do match IWM just they cannot be strictly match especially when the trend is against the fund, they tend to drop more.LOSER wrote:Hi Cobra and anyone:
The price of TNA and TZA up down proportion are often a difference of 0.2-0.5 percent . When TZA down it down more percentage than TNA's up. How do they compare to IWM , I know it is 3 times of IWM , do MMs of TNA TZA IWM interact to each other? Do IWM RUT price actually reflect the Russel 2000 stock's price?
IWM mostly reflects the RUT.
I have a little time to explain.
TZA and TNA follow $RUT Index.
These are just examples;
$RUT is up 3% so 3x bull etf TNA should be up 3x3% and 3x bear etf TZA should be down by 3x3%. 4RUT up, TNA is up, RUT down then TZA is up. ( look at the % up or down {not actual number} from $RUT and calculate the TNA and TZA.)
so;
TNA is $40 therefore %9 up would be $3.6
TZA is $20 therefore 9% down would be negative $1.80
Very bearish, TZA, EDZ, SRSjarbo456 wrote:haha. yeah i'm not sure if that means you're bearish or bullish?? lolMe XMan wrote:Huh?
BullBear52x wrote:load up bears, Laugh at me tomorrow.
Yr new nickname is officially “Jarbo of the big bowls.”jarbo456 wrote:i'm sitting 75% short with a loss on today's squeeze higher, but i'm not panicky at all. in fact, i wrote 3 hours ago that we would probably have to face testing 126.4 (with an overshoot - for the usual broker stop hunting machine), before the bears had a chance. i'm always anxious being short the market, but i see this as a very healthy correction to Mon and Tuesday's routs. now it's time for the bears to see what they can do, and barring rumors and intervention, we should see, at the minimum, a visit to 124. i think the market is more vulnerable to bearish news at this point, then it is to bullish news. with the referendum vote headlines out of the way, now it's all about how the EFSF is not going to work.
BullBear52x wrote:Very bearish, TZA, EDZ, SRSjarbo456 wrote:haha. yeah i'm not sure if that means you're bearish or bullish?? lolMe XMan wrote:Huh?
BullBear52x wrote:load up bears, Laugh at me tomorrow.
After tomorrow BUY the DIPs, Expected a pull back but will be a buy if the pull back is not too deep.