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12/02/2011 Intraday Watering

Re: 12/02/2011 Intraday Watering

Postby Auole » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:43 pm

Raphsody - I see you're gone but ..here is picture of 1 min after hours. Do not have understanding of what it means. Just interesting. Cobra - I agree that this site is VERY special, informative, helpful, focused, and your insight into unemotional martian clear headed guidance into what this market is doing is what real traders need. Belle Montreal, n'est pas??
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Re: 12/02/2011 Intraday Watering

Postby rhapsody1447 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:52 pm

Great thanks for the update. Usually I have a lot of faith in p-bars but I'm pretty bearish for monday. Maybe an open at the top of the p-bar and then down? It seems like the move in the futures retraced back right after the close and then fell off. I know a lot of people here are big on p-bars so I was curious to see what their take was.
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Re: 12/02/2011 Intraday Watering

Postby ActiveTrader » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:56 pm

Cobra wrote:
ActiveTrader wrote:How do I create a new ID since I already signed up?


You need click signup at www, where there's a PayPal button, you need pay first to lock in $10 a month membership then you'll see register form.

I already paid through PayPal, but I used ActiveTrader on http://www.cobrasmarketview.com so it won't let login on the www since I already used ActiveTrader on the bbs. Should I cancel the PayPal subscription and then re-signup?
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Re: 12/02/2011 Intraday Watering

Postby cirrus » Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:06 pm

Cobra,
My $0.02 on ads vs. pay. I've been in the digital media payment/social network business for the past 4 years. As you experienced, ads only pay significantly at very large scale, like >1M uniques per month. For smaller scale but very devoted "fans" if you will, it is much better if you have a paid site, but the critical caveat is that there must be continuous engagement by, in the words of Hollywood, the "talent". In this case, the talent is you. This is why big business has been very slow to embrace social media in a conversational way because of the one to one or one to few (less than a thousand) nature of the conversation. When you get above a thousand or so, you hit a ceiling as you've seen because even if only a small % of the 1,000 people ask questions or start a conversation and expect an answer, it's overwhelming This, of course, quickly overloads the talent, as you're experiencing. Some sites hire ghost writers to pen the writings, like Oprah and many other large social graph celebrities. But I doubt that's your style or strategy.

It's been shown that the predominant digital products/site access services men pay for (not necessarily in order), is financial info, entertainment, health info, a passion (music, guitar playing, sports, etc.) and porn. But financial info is the #1 for men, above all else. Not porn as there's too much free of that...

I know there are a few non-men here, including women, black swans, bulls, bears and Martians, so I'm speaking in broad terms.

So I think for what you are and your size you are doing the right thing. I'm happy to exchange private messages, but I thought I'd reply in the open as the topic was started in the open.
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Re: 12/02/2011 Intraday Watering

Postby Auole » Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:11 pm

Active T I don't have answer. I am Auole with same PW on both Main/Home and Intraday. We become 'bronze' members when we've paid. BTW HedgeZero @ about 11 am had article about newly destroyed nuke center in Iran. It took about an hour but /CL futures finally started up along with USO AND UCO. They closed a bit flat though. I tried to confirm rumor but didn't find anything. OBV turned up on them too but not until 1 + hour after the news so so far I just figure buying on rumor. Worth watching though.
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Re: 12/02/2011 Intraday Watering

Postby ActiveTrader » Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:27 pm

ActiveTrader wrote:
Cobra wrote:
ActiveTrader wrote:How do I create a new ID since I already signed up?


You need click signup at www, where there's a PayPal button, you need pay first to lock in $10 a month membership then you'll see register form.

I already paid through PayPal, but I used ActiveTrader on http://www.cobrasmarketview.com so it won't let login on the www since I already used ActiveTrader on the bbs. Should I cancel the PayPal subscription and then re-signup?

I cancelled the recurring PayPal payment. I re-signup and the www site will not let me create a new account. I guess I will wait for Cobras help.
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Re: 12/02/2011 Intraday Watering

Postby Me XMan » Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:45 pm

I love this avatar! :D
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Re: 12/02/2011 Intraday Watering

Postby Cobra » Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:01 pm

ActiveTrader wrote:
ActiveTrader wrote:
Cobra wrote:
ActiveTrader wrote:How do I create a new ID since I already signed up?


You need click signup at www, where there's a PayPal button, you need pay first to lock in $10 a month membership then you'll see register form.

I already paid through PayPal, but I used ActiveTrader on http://www.cobrasmarketview.com so it won't let login on the www since I already used ActiveTrader on the bbs. Should I cancel the PayPal subscription and then re-signup?

I cancelled the recurring PayPal payment. I re-signup and the www site will not let me create a new account. I guess I will wait for Cobras help.


Yes, I'm helping you now.

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Re: 12/02/2011 Intraday Watering

Postby Cobra » Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:03 pm

cirrus wrote:Cobra,
My $0.02 on ads vs. pay. I've been in the digital media payment/social network business for the past 4 years. As you experienced, ads only pay significantly at very large scale, like >1M uniques per month. For smaller scale but very devoted "fans" if you will, it is much better if you have a paid site, but the critical caveat is that there must be continuous engagement by, in the words of Hollywood, the "talent". In this case, the talent is you. This is why big business has been very slow to embrace social media in a conversational way because of the one to one or one to few (less than a thousand) nature of the conversation. When you get above a thousand or so, you hit a ceiling as you've seen because even if only a small % of the 1,000 people ask questions or start a conversation and expect an answer, it's overwhelming This, of course, quickly overloads the talent, as you're experiencing. Some sites hire ghost writers to pen the writings, like Oprah and many other large social graph celebrities. But I doubt that's your style or strategy.

It's been shown that the predominant digital products/site access services men pay for (not necessarily in order), is financial info, entertainment, health info, a passion (music, guitar playing, sports, etc.) and porn. But financial info is the #1 for men, above all else. Not porn as there's too much free of that...

I know there are a few non-men here, including women, black swans, bulls, bears and Martians, so I'm speaking in broad terms.

So I think for what you are and your size you are doing the right thing. I'm happy to exchange private messages, but I thought I'd reply in the open as the topic was started in the open.


Thanks, cirrus. If you have any good suggestion or simply need to talk to me, you can send me an email at cobra@cobrasmarketview.com

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Re: 12/02/2011 Intraday Watering

Postby Cobra » Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:05 pm

ActiveTrader wrote:
Cobra wrote:
ActiveTrader wrote:How do I create a new ID since I already signed up?


You need click signup at www, where there's a PayPal button, you need pay first to lock in $10 a month membership then you'll see register form.

I already paid through PayPal, but I used ActiveTrader on http://www.cobrasmarketview.com so it won't let login on the www since I already used ActiveTrader on the bbs. Should I cancel the PayPal subscription and then re-signup?


You can have exactly the same ActiveTrader ID on www and bbs. No conflict. Too bad, you cancelled your ActiveTrader on www. Now it's a little complicated. You have to create another ID on www now.

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Re: 12/02/2011 Intraday Watering

Postby dcurban1 » Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:24 pm

cirrus wrote:Cobra,
My $0.02 on ads vs. pay. I've been in the digital media payment/social network business for the past 4 years. As you experienced, ads only pay significantly at very large scale, like >1M uniques per month. For smaller scale but very devoted "fans" if you will, it is much better if you have a paid site, but the critical caveat is that there must be continuous engagement by, in the words of Hollywood, the "talent". In this case, the talent is you. This is why big business has been very slow to embrace social media in a conversational way because of the one to one or one to few (less than a thousand) nature of the conversation. When you get above a thousand or so, you hit a ceiling as you've seen because even if only a small % of the 1,000 people ask questions or start a conversation and expect an answer, it's overwhelming This, of course, quickly overloads the talent, as you're experiencing. Some sites hire ghost writers to pen the writings, like Oprah and many other large social graph celebrities. But I doubt that's your style or strategy.

It's been shown that the predominant digital products/site access services men pay for (not necessarily in order), is financial info, entertainment, health info, a passion (music, guitar playing, sports, etc.) and porn. But financial info is the #1 for men, above all else. Not porn as there's too much free of that...

I know there are a few non-men here, including women, black swans, bulls, bears and Martians, so I'm speaking in broad terms.

So I think for what you are and your size you are doing the right thing. I'm happy to exchange private messages, but I thought I'd reply in the open as the topic was started in the open.


I would love to talk about this as well. I believe that I am successful using social media getting regular traffic from places like Indonesia, India, all across Europe, Chile and Singapore after being up for just over a month but feel that I can do better.

Maybe we can start a thread in the other subforum or exchange PM's.
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