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12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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uempel wrote:
Al_Dente wrote:
uempel wrote:
uempel wrote:I'll be back in half an hour, want to check what happens at 14.40 pm. But note that this is a 10 min chart and timing a move is less precise :D
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Bird's eye perspective of the same chart:
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TRUST * IN * THE * FORCE * LUKE
And please don’t go on another break for a little while
1min http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=SPY&p= ... listNum=15
Signal buttons are switched off today, witches are busy organizing tomorrow's party :D
Oh yea? what was that little spy triangle breakdown right there
Dude you were nine minutes late on a ten minute chart !!! :o :o :o :D :D
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Yeah, support is breaking, this is bearish.
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Witches are driving me crazy today. Now I'm definitely off...
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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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Anyone else see the bad tick down to $22.45 on UUP? I have it via stockcharts on 5 min. around 2:30 E.S.T. Predicting move UP in equities??????
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Bulls need a gap down followed by a reversal...my money says that happens tomorrow or Monday. Today appears to just be working off over sold conditions.
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P bar fans..P bar at 121.76. Lets see.
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stucap wrote:
Anaconda wrote:3 to the upside, 3 to the downside...which way will she go?
breakdown or bear trap?
Fascinating day. I expected a hard pop to the upside, for sure. But, a bear trap is a reasonable expectation, as well. Looking at the daily chart, assuming we stay in OR, and we have a HH and HL to end the day with, I would expect more up tomorrow.

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SPX: I modify my s/t "map"
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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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This is a perfect internals alignment, sell, got to trust what works.
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BOY!!! I closed out ATHN for a small gain Couple days ago and just now it took a dive -$11.00.You never know.
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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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This is modify Dr. Al version.
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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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the way vix is crashing i guess :) thre is some big fireworks bound to happen...
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Now I can sniff.....sniff sniff sniff...yeap Bull trap. :lol: have a good one everyone

Thanks Cobra.
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Just want to come in and say that I am not sure about selling right here. Back to accounting work!
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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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taggard wrote:
bushwaffle wrote:
taggard wrote:
bushwaffle wrote:
taggard wrote:re humans amplified by machines are very hard to model using abstractions over periods of time.

good luck
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terminator

have you seen "REVOLVER" along with "FRESH" two of the better "trader education films". the point in revolver is that the issues are more within us--the perspective on the event (as far as traders esp) is more to the point. two guys can see the same chart--trade it inversely and both win. we b liking "relative absolutes"--not because there are no absolute absolutes but because we ourselves fluctuate mentally.

amusing experiment--get a small clock with a second hand and sit down at a table placing the clock on the table. next noting the second hand breath in for 5 seconds--contain the breath for 5 seconds--breath out for 5 seconds--contain the breath for 5 seconds. or adjust the time to whatever is comfortable to you. the key is to consider 1 cycle these 4 movements.


next simply make 30 of these moves counting mentally as you and watch what happens. this is a simple demonstration of the fluctuation of the mind. next put me in front of 3 screens with moving data (even if it is only qqq in 3 time frames) and naturally i am trading money which i like--and consider the fluctuation issue.

fresh is superior in my opinion as the trader starts with a 0 position and winds up winning "everything". revolver is an attempt to look at ego in a street wise situation--the play is simple enough--do egg-xactly what you don't want to do to win. wait who are you anywhey?
Which FRESH are you referring to? /link I couldn't get high enough to follow REVOLVER, but the George Costanza approach sounds like egg-xactly what I need to trade by if past results are an indicator. The clock experiment is going to mess with me, because...much like my trading...I would rather contemplate the outcome than to execute it and I'm sure I'll find a way to lose money doing it whether I have the outcome predicted or not.

(1) the point with revolver was ego something you just referred to as "i would rather contemplate the outcome". the problem is "who is I". when observed very closely we are constructs" hence "i'm sure i'll find a way to lose the money" if this is a constant situation is ideal since it only needs to be inverted to make money. in the movie jake is trying to act as he usually does--to get even--and the point is to invert that thinking and walk away. what keeps us from doing this is the ego which feels at risk. eventually he discovers that he is "being conned by logic" and rises above this. the key is to do exactly what you don't want to and can see no reason to--because it is that which is holding one back

(2) the fresh movie is directed boaz yakin in 1994 and is very linear in story telling and the points alluded to. the key idea is when encountering a larger enemy to use events and situations to your advantage. in the film a kid defeats all the adults (most of whom are scum trying to exploit or use him).

(3) not that it is any of my business--but i would consider keeping records of your actions if you have loss issues (or maybe you are just kidding) and watch the patterns. very quickly you will note something similar running though them.

(4) a simple rule set--for example. my problem is over-thinking. i can react quickly--but after years of trading different time frames--it's easy for me to have "conceptual time frame leak". if i trade a 5 min i can actually win using a rule set that works something like this.

the secon i know there is a range chill do nothing (almost blindly)
the second i know there is a trend enter (almost blindly)
the second i know that trade is wrong exit (almost blindly)
if the sucker is correct let it run about 1.5 to 2x longer than i "think i should"
maintain a sense of quiet relaxed good humor.

we could add to this--but the fact is most of the time we are looking at our ideas of what is rather than what is. the problem is (1) even noting it's going on. (2) spotting the problems (which our ego habits etc do everything to defend against as did jake's) (3) taking the inverse action. personally i think 90% of the issue is record keeping as this eventually forces us to admit where our flaws are at least.

my point above is that the rules are easy--the problem is admitting the market knows more than us and we are in effect "out of control"--that is attempting to be led by the market. this actually is "in control" since it is voluntary. amusingly refusing to do this gives the illusion of being in control but is actually being out of control (unless you believe that believing illusions is "in control").

so the clock thing proves that we are fluctuating constantly. the rule set is usually fairly simple at least in short term stuff. hence the term revolver as these two ideas more or less put a gun to our head to change.

good luck with your trading
I would say you're right on target with all that. The problem is that (being a frontman/singer/songwriter), ego is gonna be a mother to overcome and actually may end up a bit negative for me unless I find a way to balance it...and I think I'm a degenerate gambler with a subconscious need to lose, even though most of my plans would have worked out, if I had enough self control to stick to them.

The whole artist/money cliche is pretty much true... :roll:
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Honey...JUMP.
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newbie_77 wrote:the way vix is crashing i guess :) thre is some big fireworks bound to happen...
Yeah…lots of guys will get stuck with their Dec puts...at VIX OpEx in 5 days..
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A functioning reasistance for SPY, on 130 min:
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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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BullBear52x wrote:Now I can sniff.....sniff sniff sniff...yeap Bull trap. :lol: have a good one everyone

Thanks Cobra.
Bull trap or bullsh*t? :lol: Game not over yet.
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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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BullBear52x wrote:This is modify Dr. Al version.
I can’t tell how u modified it (please tell)
None-of-my-business suggestion:
split TNX and VIX away from TICK.
Easier to read
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=SPY&p= ... =251032121

OMG OMG spy broke down under triangle, reversal, broke out above triangle
THAT IS TEXTBOOK BULKOWSKI !!!!!
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