There's a saying... losers average in losers...I cut reds quickly[/quote]
couldn't agree more. for newbies there are two elements to this idea. first you have to have a very clear idea of when to cut. i hate the word system--but you need to know your exact tolerance however you figure that out. the other problem is to be "disciplined". now this is much harder on your first 300 trades than it is on the next 1000. the problem is you have less feed back and have to be yet more "disciplined". personally i am not big on disciple except inside a context. or i don't see any reason to be totally anal all the time. so if you are starting out--you need a way to grasp this that is so absolute it's like branded on your brain.
lets put it this way--the idea you should bail losers fast--is the number one thing period. it's infinitely more important than your trading system--and in fact if the rule is followed totally--will actually help you create your system. a distant second rule is "let your winners run". but that is nothing compared to keeping a handle on your capital. if you are starting out or have problems with bailing red trades--try to think of trading as a continuum. if you have 500 trades in mind you can get less attached to 1--and this mental exercise mimics the metal set of a pro who in fact has 100s of trades.
emotionally you need to turn your brain around to feeling great when you lose money--meaning cut your losses. failure to do this will to very large problems ahead. either getting into a "bummed and stoked" cycle. so getting bummed on losers tends to cause you to ignore what they are telling you. and getting stoked when you get it right--is right before it gets really bad.
try to think about how you experience bailing and fix that--that in turn will make the mechanical part much eaiser.
Unique wrote:
Limit stops are for suckers because MMs will crush you if you're a day trader. So if you have the time to monitor, then manual stops at market prices are the best IMHO.
As individual trader, I use manual stops. But most time, limit order.
I put in an order at my target, then hit cancel/replace and have it ready at my fingertips to change price and hit sell to close. A mere half second and I can get away clean.
kind looks like a descending triangle, so the chart is a little little bit bearish biased now.
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The descending triangle on SPY 5(min) looks like someone's evil plan (not mine). Me think it's scary. Like big red apple. Won't touch it.
Agreed !! Might wait for better entry tomorrow this could chop me into little bits
I'm in and out for small profit here. ..Could be a bull flag/wedge and VIX looking ready to break down...
Hubon wrote:Good Morning to you, sorry but I have to steal that picture amazing, where do you get this stuff
ups something went wrong, I mean aldente´s bear cave pic
L_T wrote:From Cobra's breakout list both GEO and ISIS have either triggered or about to.
EXP is strong too in the face of 3 red days from the broad markets.
i'm in:
DAL
GEO
ISIS
KBH
S
All those have triggered for me.
Wow, congratulations!
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L_T wrote:From Cobra's breakout list both GEO and ISIS have either triggered or about to.
EXP is strong too in the face of 3 red days from the broad markets.
i'm in:
DAL
GEO
ISIS
KBH
S
All those have triggered for me.
Just a reminder (I use your comment as ad), don't forget my weekly stock picks. lots of breakout this week. It's free doesn't mean it's useless. just like my live update comments are free too but you should know others would charge you for $99 every month for the same services.
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L_T wrote:From Cobra's breakout list both GEO and ISIS have either triggered or about to.
EXP is strong too in the face of 3 red days from the broad markets.
i'm in:
DAL
GEO
ISIS
KBH
S
All those have triggered for me.
Wow, congratulations!
Like I said the other week, I'm looking for ways to optimize your scan/filter. It's an easy thing to set up on Sunday nights, which is what I do. Once the position has been triggered, I put an ATR-basd stop loss. I put 5k to each position, and see how it rolls. I look for target exit prices based on basic measured move calculations, but ultimately make a discretionary choice based on relative strength post breakout.
L_T wrote:From Cobra's breakout list both GEO and ISIS have either triggered or about to.
EXP is strong too in the face of 3 red days from the broad markets.
i'm in:
DAL
GEO
ISIS
KBH
S
All those have triggered for me.
Wow, congratulations!
Like I said the other week, I'm looking for ways to optimize your scan/filter. It's an easy thing to set up on Sunday nights, which is what I do. Once the position has been triggered, I put an ATR-basd stop loss. I put 5k to each position, and see how it rolls. I look for target exit prices based on basic measured move calculations, but ultimately make a discretionary choice based on relative strength post breakout.
Thanks for the screens buddy - keep it up!
Well, you got the essence of trading those setups. one thing though, the base low is your stop loss (in theory), you don't need ATR based stop loss.
See big red comment for stop loss settings. also this will be part of members only services in the future because once people know how to trade those setups, I have to limit people who know, otherwise if everyone put the buy stop at the same place and it breaks out, it'd ruin everyone's entry.
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