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My VPOC is at 3705 after 3742Trades w 2 Cats wrote:3730 is VOPC for consolidated 12/28 to 01/06 so could be tested if 3742 falls.
For me, fundamental analysis (FA) as a practice, goes back decades. ROE. EPS. PE. Book value. Revenue. Expenses. Debt/equity. Prroducts. Management. If companies do not make profits (and vice versa), the market value should reflect that. Before the internet, one got much of the information from Annual Reports. Value-oriented fund managers did this, and still do. FA is still relevant, but, as I said, results (capital gains) take a lot of time.Cobra wrote:Fundamental is twisted by never ending QE which will be a new normal for many many years. The new born would know nothing about 'interest' in the future.JFR wrote:Ha haCobra wrote: Fundamental? What is Fundamental?
The world's greatest investor is still Warren Buffett, imo. For decades he said he never even used a computer. All fundamental analysis. Of course now he watches charts to a degree. I sill believe in fundamental analysis, but it is very slow to show results. Very, very long term. Good for a guy like Buffett who used to say his holding time was forever.
TA, charts and the internet has changed the game. "Who is buying? Who is selling? And the reasons don't matter." Just follow the charts.
BullBear52x wrote:My VPOC is at 3705 after 3742Trades w 2 Cats wrote:3730 is VOPC for consolidated 12/28 to 01/06 so could be tested if 3742 falls.
Agree, it's for long time.JFR wrote:For me, fundamental analysis (FA) as a practice, goes back decades. ROE. EPS. PE. Book value. Revenue. Expenses. Debt/equity. Prroducts. Management. If companies do not make profits (and vice versa), the market value should reflect that. Before the internet, one got much of the information from Annual Reports. Value-oriented fund managers did this, and still do. FA is still relevant, but, as I said, results (capital gains) take a lot of time.Cobra wrote:Fundamental is twisted by never ending QE which will be a new normal for many many years. The new born would know nothing about 'interest' in the future.JFR wrote:Ha haCobra wrote: Fundamental? What is Fundamental?
The world's greatest investor is still Warren Buffett, imo. For decades he said he never even used a computer. All fundamental analysis. Of course now he watches charts to a degree. I sill believe in fundamental analysis, but it is very slow to show results. Very, very long term. Good for a guy like Buffett who used to say his holding time was forever.
TA, charts and the internet has changed the game. "Who is buying? Who is selling? And the reasons don't matter." Just follow the charts.
Entry matters a lot. Right fundamentals with the wrong entry = not good.Cobra wrote:Agree, it's for long time.JFR wrote:...
Fundamental ...
I see it differently regarding entry time for fundamental investing (value investing). Buffett is the best example. His entries are poor, usually way too early, as in 2008. But time rewards his judgment on value.K447 wrote:Entry matters a lot. Right fundamentals with the wrong entry = not good.Cobra wrote:Agree, it's for long time.JFR wrote:...
Fundamental ...
Exit matters too.
We are all day traders on entry and exit for longer term holds.
JFR wrote:I don't trade blockchain. Does it trade Saturday and Sunday? Hmmm, that would be interesting. Other choices for weekends? I trade Forex and futures 24/7 Monday to Friday.Shaishen wrote:You can trade crypto = 24/7 besides BTC and ETH there are plenty of choices.JFR wrote:
I would like to see all the markets go 24/7, 7 days a week. Open all the time. IMO it seems to be moving that way. Extended hours. SPY open late and early, for example. Et cetera. Forex and futures are good. But go 7 days, please. Like a 24/7 supermarket.
The downside, of course, is that one has a hard time getting away from the markets. "The market never sleeps." Ha ha
Some guys and girls are doing serious research on various coin/blockchain projects.
Also the amount of elaborate free research, algo development, trading platforms like quantower, tradingview people pumping out ideas and scripts, etc is impressive.
I am by no means a dedicated crypto trader but I admit, especially with the don't go out restrictions, I check the crypto screens on Saturday night or Sunday morning.
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''“The amounts being purchased at this point are too large, so these trades are bleeding into the weekends.” But the technique can trigger outsized price swings at weekends, when liquidity tends to be thinner - in short, fewer bitcoin are on the market at any given price, even if trading volumes are still high.Jan 10, 2021.''
Sounds like it is not quite yet full weekend. At this time I still have no interest in trading blockchain.
Luck, I rather be lucky than good.K447 wrote:Entry matters a lot. Right fundamentals with the wrong entry = not good.Cobra wrote:Agree, it's for long time.JFR wrote:...
Fundamental ...
Exit matters too.
We are all day traders on entry and exit for longer term holds.
Thanks. I trade 24/7 now. I expressed the view of wanting it to stretch to 7 days a week. It's all good.Shaishen wrote:JFR wrote:I don't trade blockchain. Does it trade Saturday and Sunday? Hmmm, that would be interesting. Other choices for weekends? I trade Forex and futures 24/7 Monday to Friday.Shaishen wrote:You can trade crypto = 24/7 besides BTC and ETH there are plenty of choices.JFR wrote:
I would like to see all the markets go 24/7, 7 days a week. Open all the time. IMO it seems to be moving that way. Extended hours. SPY open late and early, for example. Et cetera. Forex and futures are good. But go 7 days, please. Like a 24/7 supermarket.
The downside, of course, is that one has a hard time getting away from the markets. "The market never sleeps." Ha ha
Some guys and girls are doing serious research on various coin/blockchain projects.
Also the amount of elaborate free research, algo development, trading platforms like quantower, tradingview people pumping out ideas and scripts, etc is impressive.
I am by no means a dedicated crypto trader but I admit, especially with the don't go out restrictions, I check the crypto screens on Saturday night or Sunday morning.
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''“The amounts being purchased at this point are too large, so these trades are bleeding into the weekends.” But the technique can trigger outsized price swings at weekends, when liquidity tends to be thinner - in short, fewer bitcoin are on the market at any given price, even if trading volumes are still high.Jan 10, 2021.''
Sounds like it is not quite yet full weekend. At this time I still have no interest in trading blockchain.
It's 24/7 - it's full weekend - just showing you what's available after you expressed interest in 24/7 trading.
You can check FTX.com - their volume stats - you can trade BTC futures with leverage - 24 hr vol over 2 billion in USD terms at this moment - you can check on Sunday for comparison.
https://ftx.com/markets/volatility
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The author, albeit crassly, makes a good point. That would be just a start.Al_Dente wrote:So I started reading Reddit bc evidently everyone else is.........
This is just one post VERBATIM except I added asterisks
"Just read a New York Times article saying the SEC is reviewing this sub and what is going on.…
" (SEC PLS READ)
"To the SEC retards in this sub: go f**k yourself. Why don’t you start investigating why companies can shut down trading so their hedge fund buddies don’t lose money. But when people lose money it’s completely ok. Eat a d**k.