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03/09/2012 Intraday Watering

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Me XMan
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Re: 03/09/2012 Intraday Watering

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Games finance people play...more deadly than bunker buster bombs. ;)
soku wrote:
Me XMan wrote:Without defaulting, CDS market is null and void and they can't have this happening.
soku wrote:isda ruled creece in default, so all cds will trigger.
it makes sense tho. u force people to accept less money they lend you. and u call it not default?
u know those cds holders are all BIG boys. u think they will let greece go? :mrgreen:
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Re: 03/09/2012 Intraday Watering

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Shorted SPY...don't play ETF anymore.
BenAndLloyd wrote:Xeman,
What do you actually short? Do you buy puts on SSO/SPY/UPRO etc or short the stock/etf directly? Thanks
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Re: 03/09/2012 Intraday Watering

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Me XMan wrote:Shorted SPY...don't play ETF anymore.
BenAndLloyd wrote:Xeman,
What do you actually short? Do you buy puts on SSO/SPY/UPRO etc or short the stock/etf directly? Thanks
You must have a 7 figure portfolio. :mrgreen:
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Re: 03/09/2012 Intraday Watering

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JBTFD -- this is probably just an engineered dip so the algos can get some more shorts to squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze into EOD.
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Re: 03/09/2012 Intraday Watering

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as i said, i am not bond guy. here is my calculation er, i mean guess. the greece bond haircut is 79% for now. on 3/20 isda is going to tell us the exact number. the cds is not a lot, only 3b. i think it will impact the next bail out. yes, there will be the next one pretty soon. greece lives on that.
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Re: 03/09/2012 Intraday Watering

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Petsamo wrote:
waverider wrote:
Petsamo wrote:What is FCX's problem
Can you elaborate? What are you expecting of it?
It is very beat up, nice fundamentals, not rallying with XME, its ETF.
Ah, thanks.
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Re: 03/09/2012 Intraday Watering

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Xeman,
But SPY is an ETF ...do you mean 2X/3X versions?
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Re: 03/09/2012 Intraday Watering

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rebound, key time. let's wait.
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Re: 03/09/2012 Intraday Watering

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I'm shorting SPY only. No 2X/3X.
BenAndLloyd wrote:Xeman,
But SPY is an ETF ...do you mean 2X/3X versions?
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Re: 03/09/2012 Intraday Watering

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zudec wrote:
Petsamo wrote:
waverider wrote:
Petsamo wrote:What is FCX's problem
Can you elaborate? What are you expecting of it?
It is very beat up, nice fundamentals, not rallying with XME, its ETF.

Indonesia is going to renegotiate ALL mining contracts - not just the ones that have been signed since new law passed. So FCX could take a hit (unquantified at this time).
Strictly from a chart stand point FCX looks very weak IMHO. It's one I've been following that had no rebound like the broader market i.e. it's a chart that should make bears happy with it's gap down and no move back up. Also look at JOY as it's another that broke down and couldn't fill the gap back up. Seems to me that barring any crazy news they are going to both continue down.
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Re: 03/09/2012 Intraday Watering

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HAHAHAHA! How I wish... :lol:
Only mid 5's...
btran874 wrote:
Me XMan wrote:Shorted SPY...don't play ETF anymore.
BenAndLloyd wrote:Xeman,
What do you actually short? Do you buy puts on SSO/SPY/UPRO etc or short the stock/etf directly? Thanks
You must have a 7 figure portfolio. :mrgreen:
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Re: 03/09/2012 Intraday Watering

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soku wrote:as i said, i am not bond guy. here is my calculation er, i mean guess. the greece bond haircut is 79% for now. on 3/20 isda is going to tell us the exact number. the cds is not a lot, only 3b. i think it will impact the next bail out. yes, there will be the next one pretty soon. greece lives on that.
IPAD 3 announced, Greece got deal done we are moving on....No? ,more Greece talk in the future? if it's this long fundamentally it's baked in already.
My comments are for entertainment/educational purpose only. NOT a trade advice.
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Re: 03/09/2012 Intraday Watering

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Me XMan wrote:HAHAHAHA! How I wish... :lol:
Only mid 5's...
btran874 wrote:
Me XMan wrote:Shorted SPY...don't play ETF anymore.
BenAndLloyd wrote:Xeman,
What do you actually short? Do you buy puts on SSO/SPY/UPRO etc or short the stock/etf directly? Thanks
You must have a 7 figure portfolio. :mrgreen:

Good for you. No decay to deal with. :mrgreen:
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Re: 03/09/2012 Intraday Watering

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h2oskier wrote:
Al_Dente wrote:h2oskier
very nice, I like that chart
Thanks for the input. I played with the sizes as you suggested, it does the trick! Thanks for your help!
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=IWM&p= ... =260414804
OOOOOOOOOOO yeowwwwzaaaaaa
Nice nice
Now just one more thing
Impt to watch $TRIN totally straight up
Or else TRIN reversed just for easy on the eyeballs viewing $ONE:$TRIN
U want an undiluted view of the volume flowing either INTO ADVANCING STOCKS or INTO DECLINING STOCKS
But that’s just IMHO
B nice to watch it ALL but we just don’t have the real estate, grumble, grumble…
GLTu
pls post updates, as no one else on board posts 1 min IWM
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Re: 03/09/2012 Intraday Watering

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Me XMan wrote:BLACK MONDAY COMING !
I second that !

Reloaded shorts at retest of the top.

will take half profits and hold for traders and robots waking up in terrible mood next monday.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: 03/09/2012 Intraday Watering

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BullBear52x wrote:
soku wrote:as i said, i am not bond guy. here is my calculation er, i mean guess. the greece bond haircut is 79% for now. on 3/20 isda is going to tell us the exact number. the cds is not a lot, only 3b. i think it will impact the next bail out. yes, there will be the next one pretty soon. greece lives on that.
IPAD 3 announced, Greece got deal done we are moving on....No? ,more Greece talk in the future? if it's this long fundamentally it's baked in already.
Very well said.
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Re: 03/09/2012 Intraday Watering

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Potential IHS forming - targeting 1410 if triggered
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Re: 03/09/2012 Intraday Watering

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btran874 wrote:@TraderGirl: 1369 would satisfy wave 4 requirement. I set my range at 1366-1369 for wave 4.
???
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Re: 03/09/2012 Intraday Watering

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BenAndLloyd wrote:Xeman,
But SPY is an ETF ...do you mean 2X/3X versions?
yes i think he means don't touch leveraged etf. that's my opinion too.
if you really need leverage, try to hold couple spy options over weekend. this is a crazy market. i expect something happening over the weekend, but i don't want to bet big. every time i play option for my own account, i play small and do it "all or nothing'.
remember last oct? 1 day up 30 points then the next day down 40? at that time i thought i need a compass to figure out which way i should brush my teeth. small option play is saved my life and gave me enough exposure. i think we may see those days again
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Re: 03/09/2012 Intraday Watering

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TraderGirl wrote:
btran874 wrote:@TraderGirl: 1369 would satisfy wave 4 requirement. I set my range at 1366-1369 for wave 4.
???
Right on. Nice chart. Should maxed out at 1366 or perhaps give a take 1 or 2 points.
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