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Hindenburg Omen is a warning signal and should be treated as such. It shows that as a market is advancing the underlying stocks are showing significant weakness.Me XMan wrote:hindenburg omen is a myth IMO.
ocassional observer wrote:Cobra, could it be that a hindenburg omen was triggered yesterday and nobody noticed?
Mr. BachNut wrote:Well, gee whiz. Thank you Al_Dente. I'll return the compliment as I follow your postings avidly as well as those of several others here. A lot of great stuff. While we are led by a snake, the site is a lot like a watering hole with different animals coming for a drink. It helps to see the ideas and data provided by those who think differently. I believe Sun Microsystems used to have a slogan that went "The network IS the computer." I think that applies well here.Al_Dente wrote:Mr. Bach: I like u because your sentences are longer than mine, but they say more important things, like that one (above) for example...Mr. BachNut wrote:Still short....
As a guideline, I have found that, while oversold is a buy in a bull market, it is not necessarily so in a bear market. So, with an oversold market that gets more oversold, bear market rules appear to be in effect. If so, that suggests the rally from the October low was corrective, which in turn means that the Bear Market is on and the October low may not be THE low. Keep an open mind about what could lay ahead.
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From historical data, the probability of a move greater than 5% to the downside after a confirmed Hindenburg Omen was 77% [The Wall Street Journal 8/23/2010 article cited below states that accuracy is 25%, looking at period from 1985], and usually takes place within the next forty days. The probability of a panic sellout was 41% and the probability of a major stock market crash was 24%. Though the Omen does not have a 100% success rate, every NYSE crash since 1985 has been preceded by a Hindenburg Omen. Of the previous 25 confirmed signals only two (8%) have failed to predict at least mild (2.0% to 4.9%) declines.Cobra wrote:right, indeed. 69 / 3113 > 2.2% so just meet the rule, although normally, 75 advances are required. And the 2nd Omen is required for the confirmation.ocassional observer wrote:Cobra, could it be that a hindenburg omen was triggered yesterday and nobody noticed?
MrMiyagi wrote:We must have bottomed; I just bought a handful of SPY puts.
SSO bull, SDS bear. 2x but not as huge a decay as you'd think.tdo722 wrote:hi guys. what is the best stock/etf to use as a proxy for bears? I'm currently using spy for bulls and sh for bears. is SH can be considered a good proxy for bears?
200 shares short spy.tdo722 wrote: How little? $5K portfolio like me?
You know how it is, you buy one way it goes the other.newbie_77 wrote:is this a sarcasm? you bought puts at the bottom?MrMiyagi wrote:We must have bottomed; I just bought a handful of SPY puts.
You expect a lower low today?TWT wrote:SPX: ....... while if we see a strong impulsive rebound then based on the following count THE BOTTOM should be in place
Sometimes we can all feel like market makers; like when we buy a nice handful of puts and suddenly the market rebounds. It's magic!newbie_77 wrote:is this a sarcasm? you bought puts at the bottom?MrMiyagi wrote:We must have bottomed; I just bought a handful of SPY puts.
Damn u got way more money than me.pady wrote:200 shares short spy.tdo722 wrote: How little? $5K portfolio like me?
So SDS is good but not SH for bears?MrMiyagi wrote:SSO bull, SDS bear. 2x but not as huge a decay as you'd think.tdo722 wrote:hi guys. what is the best stock/etf to use as a proxy for bears? I'm currently using spy for bulls and sh for bears. is SH can be considered a good proxy for bears?
SH is fine as well, it is non-leveraged. I thought you were looking for some other options as well.tdo722 wrote:So SDS is good but not SH for bears?MrMiyagi wrote:SSO bull, SDS bear. 2x but not as huge a decay as you'd think.tdo722 wrote:hi guys. what is the best stock/etf to use as a proxy for bears? I'm currently using spy for bulls and sh for bears. is SH can be considered a good proxy for bears?