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12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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5 min
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=SPY&p= ... listNum=15

VIX and TNX went bull, spy went underwater ??????
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not good. I said if the 3rd push couldn't make a new high then it's not a good sign for bulls.
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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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bushwaffle wrote:
taggard wrote:re humans amplified by machines are very hard to model using abstractions over periods of time.

good luck
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have you seen "REVOLVER" along with "FRESH" two of the better "trader education films". the point in revolver is that the issues are more within us--the perspective on the event (as far as traders esp) is more to the point. two guys can see the same chart--trade it inversely and both win. we b liking "relative absolutes"--not because there are no absolute absolutes but because we ourselves fluctuate mentally.

amusing experiment--get a small clock with a second hand and sit down at a table placing the clock on the table. next noting the second hand breath in for 5 seconds--contain the breath for 5 seconds--breath out for 5 seconds--contain the breath for 5 seconds. or adjust the time to whatever is comfortable to you. the key is to consider 1 cycle these 4 movements.

next simply make 30 of these moves counting mentally as you and watch what happens. this is a simple demonstration of the fluctuation of the mind. next put me in front of 3 screens with moving data (even if it is only qqq in 3 time frames) and naturally i am trading money which i like--and consider the fluctuation issue.

fresh is superior in my opinion as the trader starts with a 0 position and winds up winning "everything". revolver is an attempt to look at ego in a street wise situation--the play is simple enough--do egg-xactly what you don't want to do to win. wait who are you anywhey?
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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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Al_Dente wrote:5 min
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=SPY&p= ... listNum=15

VIX and TNX went bull, spy went underwater ??????
VIX is dropping like a mofo, bonds are down. All the bulls need now are some algos to kick in.
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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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I'll be back in half an hour, want to check what happens at 14.40 pm. But note that this is a 10 min chart and timing a move is less precise :D
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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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New high still coming; 2:30 pm express is coming down the track. I can hear it... :geek:
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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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see vix spike, now bears we are talking haha.
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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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Anaconda wrote:New high still coming; 2:30 pm express is coming down the track. I can hear it... :geek:

I hope you're right Anaconda, but we know how well hope works these days :lol:
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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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BullBear52x wrote:see vix spike, now bears we are talking haha.
holy crap. what IS that?
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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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One more the get the hang of it, and I'll quit with the charts for today ;)

This is a shorter term sym triangle.. which way does she go?

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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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diamond bottom?... green ascending triangle?.... or bear flag, descending triangle? either 1240 or 1195
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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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jarbo456 wrote:
BullBear52x wrote:see vix spike, now bears we are talking haha.
holy crap. what IS that?
Last chip got bad beat I guess.
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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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jarbo456 wrote:
BullBear52x wrote:see vix spike, now bears we are talking haha.
holy crap. what IS that?
Taking out some stops along with money. It's either gonna move like a mofo or...I don't know. The last time the vix did a 'just kidding' move it was followed by a 'I'm not kidding anymore' move down on SPX. But since this one cleared stops both north and south, I don't know.

But....I don't really know much about anything anyways :lol:
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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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Nice cheap imitation
But u know how I love the real thing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PluRW3_FEt0

PS: what did vix just do please?
[edit: okay fine i just saw u mention vix TEN minutes ago, nevermind]
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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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Al_Dente wrote:
Nice cheap imitation
But u know how I love the real thing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PluRW3_FEt0

PS: what did vix just do please?
popped a whole dollar...or basically 4%...
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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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Al_Dente wrote:
Nice cheap imitation
But u know how I love the real thing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PluRW3_FEt0

PS: what did vix just do please?
It's trying to break through the 25 resistance. I'm long and I don't like it :o
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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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Gee honey...

SPX http://99ercharts.blogspot.com/2011/12/spx_2188.html

Are we there yet?
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Re: 12/15/2011 Intraday Watering

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taggard wrote:
bushwaffle wrote:
taggard wrote:re humans amplified by machines are very hard to model using abstractions over periods of time.

good luck
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have you seen "REVOLVER" along with "FRESH" two of the better "trader education films". the point in revolver is that the issues are more within us--the perspective on the event (as far as traders esp) is more to the point. two guys can see the same chart--trade it inversely and both win. we b liking "relative absolutes"--not because there are no absolute absolutes but because we ourselves fluctuate mentally.

amusing experiment--get a small clock with a second hand and sit down at a table placing the clock on the table. next noting the second hand breath in for 5 seconds--contain the breath for 5 seconds--breath out for 5 seconds--contain the breath for 5 seconds. or adjust the time to whatever is comfortable to you. the key is to consider 1 cycle these 4 movements.

next simply make 30 of these moves counting mentally as you and watch what happens. this is a simple demonstration of the fluctuation of the mind. next put me in front of 3 screens with moving data (even if it is only qqq in 3 time frames) and naturally i am trading money which i like--and consider the fluctuation issue.

fresh is superior in my opinion as the trader starts with a 0 position and winds up winning "everything". revolver is an attempt to look at ego in a street wise situation--the play is simple enough--do egg-xactly what you don't want to do to win. wait who are you anywhey?
Which FRESH are you referring to? /link I couldn't get high enough to follow REVOLVER, but the George Costanza approach sounds like egg-xactly what I need to trade by if past results are an indicator. The clock experiment is going to mess with me, because...much like my trading...I would rather contemplate the outcome than to execute it and I'm sure I'll find a way to lose money doing it whether I have the outcome predicted or not.
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