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Re: 11/01/2012 Live Update

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:54 pm
by Cobra

Re: 11/01/2012 Live Update

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:54 pm
by Me XMan
Closing near high will have gap up tomorrow guarantee.
SB73 wrote:
Me XMan wrote:They're cleaning up stop-loss and go higher? Them bastards...didn't get mine.
Cobra wrote:I don't like this. this is not a typical strong up day should be.
I told you I would be in for the late day ramp and bingo we got it...T-5 for closeout.

Re: 11/01/2012 Live Update

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:54 pm
by Out of Bounds
This does not look like a short squeeze to me. Short covering and taking profit maybe but certainly not a squeeze. A squeeze would mean that (at least some) short positions would be getting margin calls and that is just not happening at this time.

Re: 11/01/2012 Live Update

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:55 pm
by Cobra
well, guess that's it for today. NFP tomorrow which wasn't so bull friendly recently. thank you guys, I'll see you tomorrow.

Re: 11/01/2012 Live Update

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:58 pm
by Me XMan
Thanks for all you do my friend.
Cobra wrote:well, guess that's it for today. NFP tomorrow which wasn't so bull friendly recently. thank you guys, I'll see you tomorrow.

Re: 11/01/2012 Live Update

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:58 pm
by SB73
Me XMan wrote:Closing near high will have gap up tomorrow guarantee.
SB73 wrote:
Me XMan wrote:They're cleaning up stop-loss and go higher? Them bastards...didn't get mine.
Cobra wrote:I don't like this. this is not a typical strong up day should be.
I told you I would be in for the late day ramp and bingo we got it...T-5 for closeout.
I don't see it the same way...almost everything I see is teetering on direction which means that the gap will happen when I can't trade it, but I can deal with it. Could be a big gap either way.

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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:00 pm
by Mr. T
MrMiyagi wrote:
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Where's teh one I talked about this morning????? The one I couldn't see but know it's there :lol: :lol: :lol:

SPX 1500!!!!!!

Re: 11/01/2012 Live Update

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:01 pm
by joeynickels
Petsamo wrote:They're backing off from the highs because they want this thing to gap up. So the rally should continue for a typically non-bearish Friday. I'm just guessing ...
Agree that a gap up on the open would be the best way to clear the 13,34,50 SMAs for SPY and is the easiest way to spring a bear trap to add some unwilling buyers. They will only need to manufacture a "decent" jobs report.

Re: 11/01/2012 Live Update

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:04 pm
by ClarkW
99er has a bearish butterfly on 4 hour chart for /ES

http://www.99ercharts.com/

Re: 11/01/2012 Live Update

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:06 pm
by Petsamo
Out of Bounds wrote:This does not look like a short squeeze to me. Short covering and taking profit maybe but certainly not a squeeze. A squeeze would mean that (at least some) short positions would be getting margin calls and that is just not happening at this time.
Very beat up stocks rallied big today, WLT, CLF, AMD, X. If that wasn't a short squeeze, I dunno how you can identify one.

Re: 11/01/2012 Live Update

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:11 pm
by Me XMan
You mean butterfly will fly up and away?
ClarkW wrote:99er has a bearish butterfly on 4 hour chart for /ES

http://www.99ercharts.com/

Re: 11/01/2012 Live Update

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:21 pm
by ClarkW
Me XMan wrote:You mean butterfly will fly up and away?
ClarkW wrote:99er has a bearish butterfly on 4 hour chart for /ES

http://www.99ercharts.com/

Nah, suppose to be fly down http://harmonictrader.com/

Re: 11/01/2012 Live Update

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:28 pm
by Me XMan
I looked it up and can't see the butterfly in 99er chart.
His butterfly doesn't fit the description.
ClarkW wrote:
Me XMan wrote:You mean butterfly will fly up and away?
ClarkW wrote:99er has a bearish butterfly on 4 hour chart for /ES

http://www.99ercharts.com/

Nah, suppose to be fly down http://harmonictrader.com/

Re: 11/01/2012 Live Update

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:32 pm
by ClarkW
Me XMan wrote:I looked it up and can't see the butterfly in 99er chart.
His butterfly doesn't fit the description.
ClarkW wrote:
Me XMan wrote:You mean butterfly will fly up and away?
ClarkW wrote:99er has a bearish butterfly on 4 hour chart for /ES

http://www.99ercharts.com/

Nah, suppose to be fly down http://harmonictrader.com/
Yes, my bad. I was lazy, eye-balled it without running the figures and he doesn't say, just shows pics. It's a Gartley
Here's my drawing below, although I have my B as different than his. Note: Not a harmonics experts

Re: 11/01/2012 Live Update

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:48 pm
by pezhead9000
End of Day money flow: TSM Block money ends the day up
Blk MF: 2,316
Blk Ratio: 1.39

http://online.wsj.com/mdc/public/page/2 ... yflow.html

Re: 11/01/2012 Live Update

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:50 pm
by Out of Bounds
Petsamo wrote:
Out of Bounds wrote:This does not look like a short squeeze to me. Short covering and taking profit maybe but certainly not a squeeze. A squeeze would mean that (at least some) short positions would be getting margin calls and that is just not happening at this time.
Very beat up stocks rallied big today, WLT, CLF, AMD, X. If that wasn't a short squeeze, I dunno how you can identify one.
That looks like profit taking. Squeezes will move MUCH more violently. Like thi s with huge increase in volume and price, combination of buyers makes stock get called from shorts and they scramble to cover at higher prices and then the margin calls start coming in and forced covering. It is much more violent than simply seeing a majority of shorts cover at a profit. X was only up 5%, that is not a squeeze. WLT does look like a squeeze - you may see continued buying as margin calls continue to ripple in that one. Good eye to find that one.

YELP short squeeze
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Re: 11/01/2012 Live Update

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:53 pm
by Out of Bounds
Put my prediction through election day in todays member update and will post again in tonights Cobra updates if anyone cares

Re: 11/01/2012 Live Update

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:40 pm
by toddcobbmd
Strong sectors were Materials, Tech, Industrials, Financials.
Daily charts of xli and xlb seem to point to early recovery phase.
daily chart of dxz12 shows recent drop followed by levelling out.
daily chart of esz12 shows recent rise followed by levelling out, and today's rise being up to near the daily ma50, after recently falling through and bouncing back up.

I think this adds up to no strong impetus to go strong up again, unless there is really strong additional economic data.
Otherwise, I think adds up to generally sideways momentum, with some profit taking and some consolidation near the ma50 for tomorrow, and maybe monday before pushing up through ma50 again early next week.

BUT, if bad economic data or earnings reports happens soon, the esz12 daily will start looking like a recent triple top and the bulls will pay.

That probably sounds more confident than I feel about the outlook, but there it is, in case it contributes....

Re: 11/01/2012 Live Update

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:57 pm
by toddcobbmd