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Re: 02/04/2014 Live Update
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:08 am
by gappy
Re: 02/04/2014 Live Update
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:12 am
by fehro
VIX 15m... on support... will it hold.... and bounce?
Re: 02/04/2014 Live Update
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:14 am
by Heck
111% undervalued EFT/Index calls/puts and Undervalued Equity calls with c/p 131% suggest rally here
http://www.ise.com/market-data/isee-index/
Interesting to hear loud mouths on TV now jumping onto the bear side
and telling us why the market fell and will continue down
Good example of recency effect
Re: 02/04/2014 Live Update
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:19 am
by fehro
SPX 5m... possible triangle/bear flag
Re: 02/04/2014 Live Update
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:20 am
by fehro
Heck wrote:111% undervalued EFT/Index calls/puts and Undervalued Equity calls with c/p 131% suggest rally here
http://www.ise.com/market-data/isee-index/
Interesting to hear loud mouths on TV now jumping onto the bear side
and telling us why the market fell and will continue down
Good example of recency effect
http://www.thereformedbroker.com/2014/0 ... ections-2/
Re: 02/04/2014 Live Update
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:22 am
by gappy
Re: 02/04/2014 Live Update
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:23 am
by Al_Dente
Put in perspective, it appears to be a “normal” correction, although quicker and steeper than the ones last year.
Last year IN A BULL YEAR we had these Fibonacci retracements:
April retraced 50% fib
June retraced 75+%
August retraced 61.8%
October retraced 75+%
By comparison, yesterday we broke the 50% retracement level, and are now backtesting it.
Re: 02/04/2014 Live Update
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:23 am
by Cobra
cannot fulfill 100% mm, rebound is weak.
Re: 02/04/2014 Live Update
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:23 am
by BullBear52x
SPY intraday = sell
/ES resistance at 5 dma, a trade < 1740 dead cat bounce is over.
Re: 02/04/2014 Live Update
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:28 am
by Cobra
my guess. always give bulls more credit so one more push up, then pullback.
Re: 02/04/2014 Live Update
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:29 am
by johnnywa
uempel wrote:Factory orders at 10:00 a.m.
SPX98.png
E Gads only 30 more points to go,how long is that P bar good for???
Re: 02/04/2014 Live Update
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:30 am
by gappy
Heck wrote:111% undervalued EFT/Index calls/puts and Undervalued Equity calls with c/p 131% suggest rally here
http://www.ise.com/market-data/isee-index/
Interesting to hear loud mouths on TV now jumping onto the bear side
and telling us why the market fell and will continue down
Good example of recency effect
Cash is an option with all the greeks pretty much known, and is outperforming the S@P this year.

On a side note, I will never go back to having MSM on while I trade. More than enough BS down at the corral.

Re: 02/04/2014 Live Update
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:32 am
by KENA
BullBear52x wrote:SPY intraday = sell
/ES resistance at 5 dma, a trade < 1740 dead cat bounce is over.
Got a PB a bit ago dn to 174.10 but lets see.
Re: 02/04/2014 Live Update
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:32 am
by Al_Dente
uempel wrote:Factory orders at 10:00 a.m.
"U.S. factory orders fall -1.5% in December"
it was expected to fall -1.7%, so that's better than consensus forecast
Re: 02/04/2014 Live Update
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:35 am
by fehro
SPX 5m... a possible invs H&S
Re: 02/04/2014 Live Update
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:36 am
by BullBear52x
KENA wrote:BullBear52x wrote:SPY intraday = sell
/ES resistance at 5 dma, a trade < 1740 dead cat bounce is over.
Got a PB a bit ago dn to 174.10 but lets see.
bulls and bears both got their Pbar.
Re: 02/04/2014 Live Update
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:42 am
by BullBear52x
SPY in bear environment.
Re: 02/04/2014 Live Update
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:47 am
by koolblue
for my daytrading friends.. 3 min chart has 1749.25 and 1753.00 as targets.. and from famed analyst frank ochoa (as it mirrors my views)

Re: 02/04/2014 Live Update
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:50 am
by gappy
Re: 02/04/2014 Live Update
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:53 am
by Mr. BachNut
Neutral. Got stopped out of some longs on the December low break but re-loaded.
Tightened stops on shorts.
My summation signal is down.
My composite trend signal is down.
A lot changed yesterday. Big technical damage was done. VIX played above 19 in a sustained way.
I believe we saw sell stops run, margin calls executed and even long only funds starting to cash up.
My trend model won't be turning for awhile.
I was particularly impressed by the weakness of late last week's rallies. Not even a 1st Fib recovery from oversold.
As far as I know, there is no crisis. No bank has failed. No cannons (that matter) are firing. The economy is limpy but it has been for awhile.
So, I figure this is the bull trimming some excess fat (not muscle or bone). Unfortunately there is a fair bit of fat.
There is also a change of affairs in the currency markets.
I have not executed well on this. My signals have been good, but I have held some trapped longs since I dishonored a stop last week. My bad.
It has kept me neutral rather than short. Call me a scaredy bear...
I did catch some spread yesterday, but I confess reloading my long to neutral was stubborn. I just don't want to be heavy short after the move we have had.
That said, the technical signs are developing for a bounce in coming days. Today's and tomorrow's action is important.
I am anticipating getting stopped out of my shorts eventually.
Then I'll just have to see what happens to the longs (Gulp!), but they'll be headed for the exit too.