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Re: 08/13/2012 Live Update

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:34 pm
by nightlyhawk
Mr. BachNut wrote:
McClellan Oscillator also deteriorated (was negative most of the day). So, while price action closed almost flat and within the trading range of the last several days, there was some decay under the surface.
IMO, McClellan Oscillator indicator alone works somewhat reliable on bull side while sitting at an OS level and displaying positive divergence. Otherwise, I NEVER use it to find a ST/MT trend reversal while market approaching a top. You will lose out lot of profits while market is on an uptrend because it tends display negative divergences. That said, if you know how to combine $NYMO with another indication, it gives over 90% of a profitable trade to catch a market ST/MT bottom. Again, it works well only to catch a bottom.

Re: 08/13/2012 Live Update

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:48 pm
by Petsamo
TraderGirl wrote:
Petsamo wrote:SPY daily looks just like the DAX daily, a bull flag
EWG says bull or bear flag..take your pick...
If the flag is at the top, then it's a bull flag

Re: 08/13/2012 Live Update

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:54 pm
by Petsamo
usctrojan99 wrote:I don't know how one can be bearish in this environment. I am still bullish to 1420, but
If Obama gets re-elected then taxes will kick into high gear with Obamacare. Europe is collapsing long-term. Earnings expectations were lowered.

There's only one bull case: regime change with Romney & Ryan.

Re: 08/13/2012 Live Update

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:56 pm
by Xian
Petsamo wrote:
usctrojan99 wrote:I don't know how one can be bearish in this environment. I am still bullish to 1420, but
If Obama gets re-elected then taxes will kick into high gear with Obamacare. Europe is collapsing long-term. Earnings expectations were lowered.

There's only one bull case: regime change with Romney & Ryan.
Please shut up.

Re: 08/13/2012 Live Update

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:56 pm
by MrMiyagi
GRPN bad report. Down 16%.

Re: 08/13/2012 Live Update

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:56 pm
by KeiZai
Good decision to short XIV? I think the answer is yes

Time will tell

Re: 08/13/2012 Live Update

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:06 pm
by KeiZai
TraderGirl wrote:
Petsamo wrote:SPY daily looks just like the DAX daily, a bull flag
EWG says bull or bear flag..take your pick...

Good point TG, I highlighted areas where everyone thought that we are in bull flag ;) DAX
note: I am not saying it is or it isn“t a flag :arrow: as TG said take your pick :D
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Re: 08/13/2012 Live Update

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:20 pm
by Al_Dente
PAGING TJ
please do
thanks :mrgreen:

Re: 08/13/2012 Live Update

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:25 pm
by Petsamo
Xian wrote:
Petsamo wrote:
usctrojan99 wrote:I don't know how one can be bearish in this environment. I am still bullish to 1420, but
If Obama gets re-elected then taxes will kick into high gear with Obamacare. Europe is collapsing long-term. Earnings expectations were lowered.

There's only one bull case: regime change with Romney & Ryan.
Please shut up.
Since you said please, I'll shut up. Tomorrow's another day, though. So, see you tomorrow.

Re: 08/13/2012 Live Update

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:52 pm
by rc1269
Xian wrote:
Petsamo wrote:
usctrojan99 wrote:I don't know how one can be bearish in this environment. I am still bullish to 1420, but
If Obama gets re-elected then taxes will kick into high gear with Obamacare. Europe is collapsing long-term. Earnings expectations were lowered.

There's only one bull case: regime change with Romney & Ryan.
Please shut up.

That seems a little unecessary. You might disagree with his political affiliation, but all of the items he mentions before that happen to be fact. And most large institutional investors actually agree with his conclusion, so I'd be prepared for that in the event you get your way and Obama is re-elected. I'm not stating any personal preferences here; those are just facts. cheers-

Re: 08/13/2012 Live Update

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:15 pm
by TradingJackal
We had a 88.6% retrace of the morning dip in ES. Short at 1402.25. Die...die...die...

Re: 08/13/2012 Live Update

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:27 pm
by TradingJackal
Mr. Hyde is making a prediction right here. We crap here, right now. Something is going to come up (maybe asia/europe, wherever). The market turns red for the next few days. There - you heard it.

Re: 08/13/2012 Live Update

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:44 pm
by TradingJackal
We have to fall from a high. Without volume, this puppy will keep rising till it tickles the bottom of a shelf of 'sell' orders. So, here is a stab at some calculations keeping Wolfe wave ratios in mind. Fits both ED and Wolfe wave down (to follow). The blue C is 3 of the Wolfe wave and is exact 127% fib of blue A (1 of Wolfe). In a good ED, the relationship between B and D waves is 61.8 fib. So, D will be a quite short with a final burst towards the heights in wave E. The 127% fib of E (wave 5 in wolfe) is 1409 based on D(wave 4 in Wolfe). The 161.8 projection of the final wave takes us to 1412 or so.