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Re: 11/17/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:11 pm
by noob
Hi Cobra, sorry for being stupid, but won't count on which side? Thx.
Cobra wrote:little trend line here, I won't count on it.

Re: 11/17/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:12 pm
by L_T
Thanks. I was thinking from a daily/weekly perspective rather than an intraday trading perspective. If I had the foresight to liquidate my retirement account to cash or at least hedge it somewhat back in May/August/October I could have saved some pain. Just trying to figure out if we've gotten the signal to protect long-term holdings or if this is just a hiccup in the longer term (weeks) uptrend.
Cobra wrote:
L_T wrote:Cobra I re-read your post last night and was curious about this:

Even it breaks down tomorrow, before the Nov 1st lows being taken, officially the trend is still up, so bears still have a long way to go.

If we close here is the short term trend now officially down? Would you say the bears today completed what you called "long way to go" in one day's move?
still long way to go. officially the trend is still up if close right here.

trading is different however, because you trade EXPECTATION, so you cannot wait until I say, oh, it's officially down. You have to balance the risks.

Re: 11/17/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:14 pm
by Cobra
I'm really scared to say this because we've got enough lessons of sharp intraday reversal recently, but, hey, this still looks like a continuation pattern, so a breakdown is a little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little little more likely. :roll:

Re: 11/17/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:15 pm
by SB73
Look at how the market is working off oversold conditions. 5 min MACD could start rolling over again. This seems to be good for more down for the bears.

Re: 11/17/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:15 pm
by waverider
Yay, looks like we could actually have an exciting trade friday after this consolidation.

Re: 11/17/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:16 pm
by L_T
Help me on my dividend calendar arithmetic: if the record date is 11/23 then the ex-date is 11/21 so you can buy no later than tomorrow 11/18 right?

stucap wrote:For any of you trading equity and who like to snip a quick dividend---buy a little WYNN today....

Wynn Resorts $5 dividend will be paid Dec. 21 to shareholders of record as of Nov. 23.

Re: 11/17/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:16 pm
by Cobra
L_T wrote:Thanks. I was thinking from a daily/weekly perspective rather than an intraday trading perspective. If I had the foresight to liquidate my retirement account to cash or at least hedge it somewhat back in May/August/October I could have saved some pain. Just trying to figure out if we've gotten the signal to protect long-term holdings or if this is just a hiccup in the longer term (weeks) uptrend.
Cobra wrote:
L_T wrote:Cobra I re-read your post last night and was curious about this:

Even it breaks down tomorrow, before the Nov 1st lows being taken, officially the trend is still up, so bears still have a long way to go.

If we close here is the short term trend now officially down? Would you say the bears today completed what you called "long way to go" in one day's move?
still long way to go. officially the trend is still up if close right here.

trading is different however, because you trade EXPECTATION, so you cannot wait until I say, oh, it's officially down. You have to balance the risks.
well, for long term, my sell signal was in August I think. But if you still hold long now, I think you can wait for a few more days, officially downtrend is still long way to go, I mean intermediate-term.

Re: 11/17/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:16 pm
by Zouk
stucap wrote:For any of you trading equity and who like to snip a quick dividend---buy a little WYNN today....

Wynn Resorts $5 dividend will be paid Dec. 21 to shareholders of record as of Nov. 23.
But surely this is not baked into today's price? There's potential for a massive sell off afterhours on the 23rd or gap down on the 24th.

Re: 11/17/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:18 pm
by Cobra
noob wrote:Hi Cobra, sorry for being stupid, but won't count on which side? Thx.
Cobra wrote:little trend line here, I won't count on it.
I won't count on that trend line as resistance, but it worked.

I usually don't read much on trend line as resistance or support.

Re: 11/17/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:19 pm
by stucap
L_T wrote:Help me on my dividend calendar arithmetic: if the record date is 11/23 then the ex-date is 11/21 so you can buy no later than tomorrow 11/18 right?

stucap wrote:For any of you trading equity and who like to snip a quick dividend---buy a little WYNN today....

Wynn Resorts $5 dividend will be paid Dec. 21 to shareholders of record as of Nov. 23.
Record date is 11/23 depending on settlement at your broker which I assume is T+3, you should be good if you buy some tomorrow. For full disclosure, I bought some today @ 120.50 figuring I'll take my chances on with a 2 day dip :)

Re: 11/17/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:20 pm
by BlackThought
Zouk wrote:
stucap wrote:For any of you trading equity and who like to snip a quick dividend---buy a little WYNN today....

Wynn Resorts $5 dividend will be paid Dec. 21 to shareholders of record as of Nov. 23.
But surely this is not baked into today's price? There's potential for a massive sell off afterhours on the 23rd or gap down on the 24th.
buy weekly puts for hedge

Re: 11/17/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:20 pm
by rpccharts
Image

Re: 11/17/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:21 pm
by MrMiyagi
End of day mudslide in the making.

Re: 11/17/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:21 pm
by luckystar2006
Cobra - I noticed these two holly red bars on DAX chart from your chart book last night.

Re: 11/17/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:21 pm
by EvilTrader
Cobra wrote:
L_T wrote:Thanks. I was thinking from a daily/weekly perspective rather than an intraday trading perspective. If I had the foresight to liquidate my retirement account to cash or at least hedge it somewhat back in May/August/October I could have saved some pain. Just trying to figure out if we've gotten the signal to protect long-term holdings or if this is just a hiccup in the longer term (weeks) uptrend.
Cobra wrote:
L_T wrote:Cobra I re-read your post last night and was curious about this:

Even it breaks down tomorrow, before the Nov 1st lows being taken, officially the trend is still up, so bears still have a long way to go.

If we close here is the short term trend now officially down? Would you say the bears today completed what you called "long way to go" in one day's move?
still long way to go. officially the trend is still up if close right here.

trading is different however, because you trade EXPECTATION, so you cannot wait until I say, oh, it's officially down. You have to balance the risks.
well, for long term, my sell signal was in August I think. But if you still hold long now, I think you can wait for a few more days, officially downtrend is still long way to go, I mean intermediate-term.
I agree with you Cobra.

Today seems very much a pre-OPEX related day

No news from Europe and Financials didnt do anything unrelated to overall market actions.

Wouldnt be surprised if we rally tomorrow, on any rumors.

Never mess with the evil market-makers... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: 11/17/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:22 pm
by rpccharts
Looks like gold needs an adjustment down

Re: 11/17/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:23 pm
by r0wr
Huge bull spike

Re: 11/17/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:24 pm
by Me XMan
HAHAHAHA! :lol:
r0wr wrote:Huge bull spike

Re: 11/17/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:25 pm
by r0wr
Me XMan wrote:HAHAHAHA! :lol:
hehehe

Re: 11/17/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:27 pm
by Cobra
luckystar2006 wrote:Cobra - I noticed these two holly red bars on DAX chart from your chart book last night.
hmm, thanks, let's see. usually such similarity doesn't work.