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Re: 11/10/2012 Weekend Update
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:01 pm
by TWT
NDX: Despite the oversized selloff, the internal structure of the move off the September 21 high to date, maintains a corrective 7-wave down leg hence the odds that price has not established a major top are large.
So far price could be unfolding a Double Zig Zag
Re: 11/10/2012 Weekend Update
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:08 pm
by Al_Dente
ClarkW wrote:AL DENTE,
Your $ONE:$CPCI turned negative, right?
yes but the last (October 1-ish) signal was blue/fail
I don’t exactly trust that one, as options traders have been true honey badgers lately
ps: GREAT charts this wknd boss, thx
here’s nymo and namo at quad/triple bottom
and Bulkowski on the triple bottom:
http://thepatternsite.com/tb.html
Re: 11/10/2012 Weekend Update
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:25 pm
by uempel
Al_Dente, as to AAPL: I'm not sure if EW is the right approach. A few months ago I started to check out similar patterns from 2000. This monthly overview is not extremely precise, but it does show that the first bounce occurs near Fib 23.6%. Why not go back to 2000 and look at these old bounces more closely, on a daily chart? I guess these moves are going to be copied by AAPL. Which one I like best? - I guess it's MSFT

Re: 11/10/2012 Weekend Update
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:25 pm
by Al_Dente
ClarkW wrote:For the bear camp.
DUDE I LIKE THAT ONE A LOT
CAN U GIVE ME THE LINK IN COBRA’S evening room 4 subscribers?
THANKS

Re: 11/10/2012 Weekend Update
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:26 pm
by KeiZai
BullBear52x wrote:KeiZai wrote:BullBear52x wrote:KeiZai wrote:Housing looks good, few months ago I mentioned possible iH&S pattern, target have not been reach yet
PHLX-11.png
IYR is do or die here, have a good one.
Uf on monthly not looking very good
IRY11.png
U too BB, you just came from party? up at 5am

lots of drinks

big like

Re: 11/10/2012 Weekend Update
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:34 pm
by KeiZai
Al_Dente wrote:KeiZai wrote:Al_Dente wrote:Could someone please post an EW count on aapl...thanks
Haha doc u are obssesed with apple
I don´t have count on it (can try to make on) but I wouldn´t touch i-stuff now for LT maybe later, what u posted about apple I am watching exactly same thing (he had to steal it from me

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I see nazi toppish as well...
panda: thanks 4 all yr great charts this wknd
u r right I am obsessed with aapl
the only thing I might bet on is a short put @ 510-520
And I’m not doing that…I’m flat AAPL as of friday
AAPL scares me here
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PS: thanks daytradingES, clarkw and bb52x for gold updates
dtes: I especially liked your meltdown video, and I think it’s actually a good thing (for bears) that there aren’t more grizzly bears on board…yet…
For late voters:
http://stockcharts.com/public/1684859
Etta:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfNLspDL3ns
doc I have one question for you, do u have XLI chart with your classic stockcharts settings? Would really appreciate if yes, if no - no prob!
Here is what I am watching (p.s : ignore the text

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Re: 11/10/2012 Weekend Update
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:39 pm
by ClarkW
UNIQUE way of looking at correlation of Japanese net foreign investments vs. the market from
http://theshortsideoflong.blogspot.com
Here's the text:
Japanese individuals have amassed one of the largest levels of private household wealth in any country around the world. But with local interest rates so low for so long, Japanese money tends to search for investments abroad and retail investment always has the same mentality everywhere - that is why we call them dumb money. The chart above shows that when Japanese households become net buyers of foreign equities, price usually tends to sell off rather sharply. On the other hand, when Japanese households become net sellers of foreign equities, the opposite happens as the price usually tends to rally. To explain this contrarian indicator better, consider this chart linking those important dates to the price of the S&P 500. We can see that Japanese retail money was euphorically buying foreign equities coming into August and September. Most likely, Draghi & Bernanke's one-two punch sucked in the rest of the retail crowd from there onwards, so the chances are high regarding a major top in stock prices, all while fundamental conditions were deteriorating.
Re: 11/10/2012 Weekend Update
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:04 pm
by xfradnex
Case for a dead cat bounce of some type at the bottom of the SPY channel in Blue. The Purple Line is for Daily highs and yellow for lows. If we go below bottom channel, assume we are in panic mode.

Current support is 137.25: slope from last two lows; this is also supported by line created from lows on 7-12-12 and 7-24-12 (not a strong support); also supported by alot of revisits starting at 137.20 and below.
Re: 11/10/2012 Weekend Update
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:14 pm
by Al_Dente
KeiZai wrote:Al_Dente wrote: Haha ...
do u have XLI chart with your classic stockcharts settings
Not sure which “classic” u mean boss
I use both of these “defaults” for daily
Here is XLI based on an old Linda Raschke setting
Here is XLI based on my “equivolume” setting, which builds volume inside each price bar...(loaded with other crap)
XLI needs a bounce, based on the fact that its downtrend last week is unsustainably steep, also has a tiny bit of pos diverg
[edit: but the bounce could be horizontal; it doesn't have to be vertical]
[if this is not what u wanted, please ask me again]
Re: 11/10/2012 Weekend Update
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:23 pm
by KeiZai
Al_Dente wrote:KeiZai wrote:Al_Dente wrote: Haha ...
do u have XLI chart with your classic stockcharts settings
Not sure which “classic” u mean boss
I use both of these “defaults” for daily
Here is XLI based on an old Linda Raschke setting
1111xlilinda.png
Here is XLI based on my “equivolume” setting, which builds volume inside each price bar...(loaded with other crap)
XLI needs a bounce, based on the fact that its downtrend last week is unsustainably steep, also has a tiny bit of pos diverg
[edit: but the bounce could be horizontal; it doesn't have to be vertical]
[if this is not what u wanted, please ask me again]
1111xliequi.png
Good stuff homie! red arrow means taht selling pressure is picking up, right? This is what I need oh and the bounce
thx buddy and have a good one :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqIlnF2z ... re=related
Re: 11/10/2012 Weekend Update
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:50 pm
by PanamaJack
Does anyone have the build components from stockcharts for this (Mountian) chart -- Thanks in advance
Re: 11/10/2012 Weekend Update
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:15 pm
by ClarkW
Chart from Bespoke showing a bounce is due short-term
The S&P 500's second consecutive 1%+ decline has put the index 2.5 standard deviations below its 50-day moving average, which is well into extreme oversold territory. As of the close, 29% of the stocks in the S&P 500 were above their 50-days. At the lows this summer, this reading got into the single digits.
Re: 11/10/2012 Weekend Update
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:31 pm
by uempel
PanamaJack wrote:Does anyong have the build components from stockcharts for this (Mountian) chart -- Thanks in advane
Nice chart - but why don't you build it yourself? Are there too many kids out there screaming for your attention

Re: 11/10/2012 Weekend Update
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:32 pm
by Cobra
ClarkW wrote:UNIQUE way of looking at correlation of Japanese net foreign investments vs. the market from
http://theshortsideoflong.blogspot.com
Here's the text:
Japanese individuals have amassed one of the largest levels of private household wealth in any country around the world. But with local interest rates so low for so long, Japanese money tends to search for investments abroad and retail investment always has the same mentality everywhere - that is why we call them dumb money. The chart above shows that when Japanese households become net buyers of foreign equities, price usually tends to sell off rather sharply. On the other hand, when Japanese households become net sellers of foreign equities, the opposite happens as the price usually tends to rally. To explain this contrarian indicator better, consider this chart linking those important dates to the price of the S&P 500. We can see that Japanese retail money was euphorically buying foreign equities coming into August and September. Most likely, Draghi & Bernanke's one-two punch sucked in the rest of the retail crowd from there onwards, so the chances are high regarding a major top in stock prices, all while fundamental conditions were deteriorating.
Thanks. I like this one!
Re: 11/10/2012 Weekend Update
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:56 pm
by uempel
This is BPNYA - Bullish pecentage of all NYSE issues. The weekly chart strongly suggests that there is more downside for the market

Re: 11/10/2012 Weekend Update
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:52 pm
by Cobra
uempel wrote:Al_Dente, as to AAPL: I'm not sure if EW is the right approach. A few months ago I started to check out similar patterns from 2000. This monthly overview is not extremely precise, but it does show that the first bounce occurs near Fib 23.6%. Why not go back to 2000 and look at these old bounces more closely, on a daily chart? I guess these moves are going to be copied very precisely. Which one I like best? - I guess it's MSFT

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Hmm, this one is interesting too.
Re: 11/10/2012 Weekend Update
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:54 pm
by Cobra
ClarkW wrote:Chart from Bespoke showing a bounce is due short-term
The S&P 500's second consecutive 1%+ decline has put the index 2.5 standard deviations below its 50-day moving average, which is well into extreme oversold territory. As of the close, 29% of the stocks in the S&P 500 were above their 50-days. At the lows this summer, this reading got into the single digits.
May not be oversold enough.
Re: 11/10/2012 Weekend Update
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:57 pm
by fehro
ClarkW wrote:
Japanese individuals have amassed one of the largest levels of private household wealth in any country around the world. But with local interest rates so low for so long, Japanese money tends to search for investments abroad and retail investment always has the same mentality everywhere - that is why we call them dumb money. The chart above shows that when Japanese households become net buyers of foreign equities, price usually tends to sell off rather sharply. On the other hand, when Japanese households become net sellers of foreign equities, the opposite happens as the price usually tends to rally. To explain this contrarian indicator better, consider this chart linking those important dates to the price of the S&P 500. We can see that Japanese retail money was euphorically buying foreign equities coming into August and September. Most likely, Draghi & Bernanke's one-two punch sucked in the rest of the retail crowd from there onwards, so the chances are high regarding a major top in stock prices, all while fundamental conditions were deteriorating.
But keep in mind.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicd ... y-chart-10
http://www.economicsfanatic.com/2012/05 ... -debt.html
Re: 11/10/2012 Weekend Update
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:04 pm
by daytradingES
estimates would change in AM
NTA
IHIH
Re: 11/10/2012 Weekend Update
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:17 pm
by daytradingES
Al_Dente wrote:
PS: thanks daytradingES, clarkw and bb52x for gold updates
dtes: I especially liked your meltdown video, and I think it’s actually a good thing (for bears) that there aren’t more grizzly bears on board…yet…
Thanks Al.!!
Funny photo
Yes I don't really care if there are more bears or less - I was just surprised.
I have put it down to the slowly turn up the heat on the frog pot phenomena.
It was the same in 2007 - it took ages and hundreds of points for MSM (main stream media) to even acknowledge the top was in. I think it will be the same. Each time the baby bears get too confident the thieves will sponsor a massive run on the shorts. They can ramp this pig 60 pts in a blink of an eye.
I only trade RTH so if the top is in or not isn't even of interest to me.
It was mostly for the swing traders of the board to share some Gann ideas (time clusters etc).
dt