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Re: 11/16/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:29 am
by Al_Dente
Paging Baron von Grizzly52
Compare the a/d and tick with 9 nov?
Bears have LOTS more room to crash IF IF they want to
Bears need more cowbell.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=SPY&p= ... =245360380

Re: 11/16/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:35 am
by EFA
Mr. BachNut wrote:Still carrying pilot short.
Still anticipating SPY 126 +/-2 through OPEX.
Caveat - There is some big put open interest below 126. If big funds hold those as a hedge, they can sell into opex with impunity if they want to raise cash. Just to be aware. Can't say what will happen.

The focus on this symetrical triangle is huge. The chatter is everywhere. It is turning into a perfect setup for Mr. Market to mess with everybody. It will be interesting to watch. The balance of opinion on it as I canvass the landscape is bullish, but I am seeing both sides represented. My contrarian instinct is to discount the triangles reliability. While the initial breakout is likely to be bought or sold (potentially after a large overnight gap), I will be suspicious of any breakout as a potential trap and look for other evidence to support where the next trend will be going. I do have a small short here, but I view odds as 50/50. Given its size and the stop, it is just a little something to give me some extra asymetry if things head south.
I like your comments and am holding long and shorts.
One question on the OI below SPY 126 P: are these short or long? Could Big Money have sold these, hence buy with impunity on OEx?

Re: 11/16/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:37 am
by uempel
Waiting for a move just after midday:
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Re: 11/16/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:37 am
by Dow Trader
BullBear52x wrote:
Dow Trader wrote:
BullBear52x wrote:max pain is at 124
nice chart, thanks 8-)
Dow Trader, I like your charts too.
good to hear that, thanks
and this chart for because you said you like my charts ( and we still didn't print a lower low below it ) :mrgreen:

Re: 11/16/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:38 am
by BullBear52x
Al_Dente wrote:Paging Baron von Grizzly52
Compare the a/d and tick with 9 nov?
Bears have LOTS more room to crash IF IF they want to
Bears need more cowbell.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=SPY&p= ... =245360380
Fundamental will eventually reveal at the end. TA is for short term, Bulls or Bears as I may sound I am trying to survive this market just like most of you shark out there. I am just one little fish.

Re: 11/16/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:39 am
by Al_Dente
quientuves wrote:Does it have sense?? (i think this is my first chart here... :)
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nice quien; thanks

Re: 11/16/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:39 am
by taggard
jarbo456 wrote:
taggard wrote:agree totally on epic fixation on triangle and your shading of that fixation as (mildly skewed) bullish. often triangles that are 66% towards the narrow end (so the older the closer to the end)--create meaningless moves afterwards--ideally the triangle breaks as early on as possible. could be options exp is impacting movement? personally i would like to see a false break (sucking in all these triangle guys) that reverses into a rage or inverse move. (so if they think up and it breaks up and they jump on--and we get slammed or less preferable we break down and they jump on and we go up.) But i like the idea of discounting the triangle lets see if that works at all.
agree with both of you.

i'm afraid that there is a decent amount of smart traders on the sidelines that will jump in when the triangle breaks. if it breaks lower, they will jump in to buy into the santa rally. if it breaks higher, they will chase the beta.

so even though it's 50/50...i'm afraid it might just all go up, up, and up. -_-

i don't know though, maybe i'm just psyching myself out.
well sometimes when i get freaked the ideal move is to change perspective--generally in terms of time frame. if i go smaller stuff looks different--or if that fails thinking larger may help. usually when i am blocked--it's my approach that is wrong--as opposed to "unclear market conditions".

Re: 11/16/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:42 am
by KENA
BullBear52x wrote:How long the 20dma or mid BB will hold with Lower High. this is like the third bulls can not make a new high after support. OK I am done posting my long view. in few minites I will start buying Shorts ETFs just wait for some more indications, so far bears favor
I'm waiting also but will not buy SPY short until we break 1240-

Re: 11/16/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:46 am
by BullBear52x
KENA wrote:
BullBear52x wrote:How long the 20dma or mid BB will hold with Lower High. this is like the third bulls can not make a new high after support. OK I am done posting my long view. in few minites I will start buying Shorts ETFs just wait for some more indications, so far bears favor
I'm waiting also but will not buy SPY short until we break 1240-
Yes, 124 is good number. here is my Fib extensions.

Re: 11/16/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:46 am
by Al_Dente
99er wrote:Quote of the Day
"Every province in China is Greece."
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot. ... krupt.html
99er thank u if you were the one who yest posted a great link to Hawaiian news where China told Obama that they didn’t want to play by “rules” that they had no hand in making. That one WAS truth...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxvlKp-76io

Re: 11/16/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:47 am
by pady
cobra - why pay so much for a server ? You use Amazon cloud - will come out much cheaper. What volume do you get per month ( Gb ) ?

Re: 11/16/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:47 am
by waverider
Watching IWM, tight range with lotsa doji's in the OR, looking to short a potential reversal, maybe round yhod.

Re: 11/16/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:49 am
by BullBear52x
Eyeing pink dot for the sell zone.

Re: 11/16/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:51 am
by pady
Is it me but we are following EUR/USD every move ? It popped now and we did too.

Re: 11/16/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:52 am
by Dow Trader
2 charts :
one of then Dow ( YM ) hourly for this week and the other is ES hourly for this month, showing 2 cases in the clored lines... take your pick ( I am flat ) 8-)

Re: 11/16/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:52 am
by Petsamo
This is absolutely sick. 12 of the last 14 candlesticks of the Hang Seng have been red. The Nikkei & India have been putting out many red candlesticks also. But SPY keeps putting out white candlesticks.

Re: 11/16/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:53 am
by quientuves
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Re: 11/16/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:53 am
by jarbo456
pady wrote:Is it me but we are following EUR/USD every move ? It popped now and we did too.
pip for bip. testing the larger trend line. i think if it breaks above it and sustains, we'll end today green in equities.

Re: 11/16/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:54 am
by Cobra
pady wrote:cobra - why pay so much for a server ? You use Amazon cloud - will come out much cheaper. What volume do you get per month ( Gb ) ?
The hardware equivalent of the Cloud is even lower than our current sever. You want it worse?

Re: 11/16/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:55 am
by KENA
The way this is going I do belive we will see 1260/1270 befor we see 1240. We are still in the " U" effect.