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Re: 04/30/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:55 pm
by MrMiyagi
Cobra wrote:text book target on this bear flag. I won't hope that much though.
Well there is an unfulfilled p-bar from past Wednesday at 137.25$.
Didn't know an ascending triangle could have a downside target..
Re: 04/30/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:57 pm
by Cobra
MrMiyagi wrote:Cobra wrote:text book target on this bear flag. I won't hope that much though.
Well there is an unfulfilled p-bar from past Wednesday at 137.25$.
Didn't know an ascending triangle could have a downside target..
lots of chart patterns have target on either side and this is why it's essential to wait the breakout before trading the chart pattern.
Re: 04/30/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:00 pm
by Mr. T
Cobra wrote:MrMiyagi wrote:Cobra wrote:text book target on this bear flag. I won't hope that much though.
Well there is an unfulfilled p-bar from past Wednesday at 137.25$.
Didn't know an ascending triangle could have a downside target..
lots of chart patterns have target on either side and this is why it's essential to wait the breakout before trading the chart pattern.
You're forgetting the only signal that matters: "The moon is that way [points up]".

Re: 04/30/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:01 pm
by TraderGirl
1 minute, ok, this could be it...wave count looks like it could be complete...
sorry, Miyagi, it's hard to see....
Re: 04/30/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:02 pm
by Cobra
ok a flat channel here, still is a bear flag.
Re: 04/30/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:08 pm
by BullBear52x
we are going to get to 5dma today, sitting at 139.22 now.
Re: 04/30/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:09 pm
by fehro
1392ish could bounce, or break down hard.
Re: 04/30/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:10 pm
by BullBear52x
Fas at new LOD, IWM is the weakest link.(TNA)
Re: 04/30/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:16 pm
by BullBear52x
/ES there is hole in the floor.
Re: 04/30/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:19 pm
by ClarkW
BullBear52x wrote:/ES there is hole in the floor.
FWIW, 99er is showing a bearish Gartley for /ES on 4 hour chart
http://www.99ercharts.com/
Re: 04/30/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:25 pm
by BullBear52x
ClarkW wrote:BullBear52x wrote:/ES there is hole in the floor.
FWIW, 99er is showing a bearish Gartley for /ES on 4 hour chart
http://www.99ercharts.com/
Cool, Thanks.
I am expecting the Dip buyers to show up soon. they always do

Re: 04/30/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:39 pm
by MrMiyagi
BullBear52x wrote:
I am expecting the Dip buyers to show up soon. they always do

Must be a dip holiday.
Europe markets closed tomorrow I believe, May 1st.
Re: 04/30/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:40 pm
by TraderGirl
Tomorrow is a turn day and I just learned it should be a big move....wondering if it will be up or down??
Re: 04/30/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:43 pm
by dumamay
TraderGirl wrote:Tomorrow is a turn day and I just learned it should be a big move....wondering if it will be up or down??
UP because Europe is closed thus no bad news!!!
Re: 04/30/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:54 pm
by taggard
TraderGirl wrote:Tomorrow is a turn day and I just learned it should be a big move....wondering if it will be up or down??
on a daily chart we seem to be close to hitting the 10 and 20 ema daily. it seems possible we could bounce first time. my stuff (10 and 30 day moving average of the nyse ad line some what like nymo/nysi on stockcharts) suggests we will be over bot about the time we hit the employment numbers on Friday. So i am trying to stay open minded until then.
for another perspective--we are closing the month down on qqq and aapl. my best guess is this doesn't mean we implode (for the big decline) but on qqq it makes things interesting about 2-4 months out. failure to catch air in the next 1-2 months not good for a larger move down. there are so many right now pushing the idea that the election means up--that the time frame in front of the election is interesting.
also i am not a big wave or ew guy--but on a monthly qqq even a guy like me can see a 5th wave here. it's more a question of size and less the overall pattern.
Re: 04/30/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:54 pm
by MrMiyagi
Allright.. all falling apart here. Time to buy some TZA before Power Hour.
Re: 04/30/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:56 pm
by swinger
TraderGirl wrote:Tomorrow is a turn day and I just learned it should be a big move....wondering if it will be up or down??
The Volume is very low. It is scary.
凶多吉少。
Re: 04/30/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:59 pm
by BullBear52x
Look at the TRIN, not bearish at all. smelly

Re: 04/30/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:01 pm
by TraderGirl
taggard wrote:TraderGirl wrote:Tomorrow is a turn day and I just learned it should be a big move....wondering if it will be up or down??
on a daily chart we seem to be close to hitting the 10 and 20 ema daily. it seems possible we could bounce first time. my stuff (10 and 30 day moving average of the nyse ad line some what like nymo/nysi on stockcharts) suggests we will be over bot about the time we hit the employment numbers on Friday. So i am trying to stay open minded until then.
for another perspective--we are closing the month down on qqq and aapl. my best guess is this doesn't mean we implode (for the big decline) but on qqq it makes things interesting about 2-4 months out. failure to catch air in the next 1-2 months not good for a larger move down. there are so many right now pushing the idea that the election means up--that the time frame in front of the election is interesting.
also i am not a big wave or ew guy--but on a monthly qqq even a guy like me can see a 5th wave here. it's more a question of size and less the overall pattern.
Well the astro's say that we could be up into the 3rd when Mercury is aspecting Venus, which is enhanced by the fact that the Moon is in Venus. Venus represents money, and is favorable to the market.... and there is another turn on Friday, so it goes along with your hypothesis...
Re: 04/30/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:01 pm
by MrMiyagi
BullBear52x wrote:Look at the TRIN, not bearish at all. smelly

What ratio do you look for?