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You think I can make some serious gains waiting for the moves to have happened? How?bushwaffle wrote:It is roulette to be in a position like that before 12:30...why not wait for confirmation?ricster3 wrote:Shorted this here with puts worth $500, do or die (basically all I have left in trading account)... if QE3 is here, I'm completely done with this.
tdo722 wrote:still not too late to short guys.
I think we have completed the A of an A-B-C up so take your profits after seeing 2-push down with the B wave we're in now and live to fight another day. All success comes from failure, so be a learner not a quitter.ricster3 wrote:Shorted this here with puts worth $500, do or die (basically all I have left in trading account)... if QE3 is here, I'm completely done with this.
tdo722 wrote:ok, clocked out .30 pennies on spy. Done.tdo722 wrote:still not too late to short guys.
I think it can go lower still. oh well.
ricster3 wrote:Shorted this here with puts worth $500, do or die (basically all I have left in trading account)... if QE3 is here, I'm completely done with this.
i'm scalping, so no need for options.newbie_77 wrote:tdo, if you do not mind me asking what do you use? SPY directly? or options? can you shed light on the block?
tdo722 wrote:ok, clocked out .30 pennies on spy. Done.tdo722 wrote:still not too late to short guys.
I think it can go lower still. oh well.
Depends on what you mean by "serious gains". If you're shooting for more than 10% on a single trade, especially with that balance, you're being unrealistic.ricster3 wrote:You think I can make some serious gains waiting for the moves to have happened? How?bushwaffle wrote:It is roulette to be in a position like that before 12:30...why not wait for confirmation?ricster3 wrote:Shorted this here with puts worth $500, do or die (basically all I have left in trading account)... if QE3 is here, I'm completely done with this.
Thanks Strike for another confirm on my thoughts. I feel we are doing a slow B till FOMC and we will see a C up after that to 50% retrace of fall from 1292-1215. Which comes to 1250 range.StrikePrice wrote:I think we have completed the A of an A-B-C up so take your profits after seeing 2-push down with the B wave we're in now and live to fight another day. All success comes from failure, so be a learner not a quitter.ricster3 wrote:Shorted this here with puts worth $500, do or die (basically all I have left in trading account)... if QE3 is here, I'm completely done with this.
Al_Dente wrote:PAGING L_T
http://graphics.thomsonreuters.com/11/0 ... 411_SC.gif
Also, something new to obsess about, re FCX: Keep one eye open for anything out of the Democratic Republic of Congo [DRC]. If they can get their politics and infrastructure together, they may be the future biggest copper producer.
FCX leads a partnership with Lundin Mining (LUN.TO) and the DRC government, in the country's largest copper mine at Tenke Fungurume (Gecamines mine), where deposits “comprise one of the world's largest known copper-cobalt resources....Congo's copper output, decimated in the 1980s, has risen from 96,000 tonnes in 2007 to a projected 500,000 tonnes this year…” (Reuters, 10/28/11)
Also internals update; bull confirmed:
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=SPY&p= ... =247748592
jarbo456 wrote:market is coiling for some serious moves on the FOMC meeting...IMO.
don't know if it's going to be up or down - think there's equal chance to visit 1210/1200 and gap fillage at 1250. so obviously, market has put itself in the most obscure position before the meeting. it's just roulette right now. i'm holding both puts and calls on SPY, calls are in the money, puts are out of the money at this point. short term think there's a bias to rip and fill the gap (where i'll sell the calls) - with another test of 1210/1220 after that (but could take a few days to get this test) in which case i'll sell the puts.
not that anyone is that interested, but figured i'd lay out my game plan for the next 1-5 trading days.
i think Nov. is in for a pretty choppy month. started the month down over 2% - and according to bespoke stats means we should end the month down some more. but don't think we get there that simply, as the less noisy S&P P&F charts show some technical damage, but still a pretty bullish pattern.
bushwaffle wrote:this consolidation is bullish...maybe just waiting on FOMC news..
Gee, how can one trade with $500 account? would be incredibly hard. Better to leave it alone and trade later when account size increases.bushwaffle wrote:It is roulette to be in a position like that before 12:30...why not wait for confirmation?ricster3 wrote:Shorted this here with puts worth $500, do or die (basically all I have left in trading account)... if QE3 is here, I'm completely done with this.
almost always use month out options. i don't trust my market timing to be accurate enough, and am willing to pay the theta (time) decay for the flexibility. however, for this position, i'm in nov. puts, as they are part of my legacy position that i closed 75% of yesterday. so nov. puts and dec. calls for now.newbie_77 wrote:jarbo,
this is great information thank you for sharing.
are you using front end (nov) options or latter months?jarbo456 wrote:market is coiling for some serious moves on the FOMC meeting...IMO.
don't know if it's going to be up or down - think there's equal chance to visit 1210/1200 and gap fillage at 1250. so obviously, market has put itself in the most obscure position before the meeting. it's just roulette right now. i'm holding both puts and calls on SPY, calls are in the money, puts are out of the money at this point. short term think there's a bias to rip and fill the gap (where i'll sell the calls) - with another test of 1210/1220 after that (but could take a few days to get this test) in which case i'll sell the puts.
not that anyone is that interested, but figured i'd lay out my game plan for the next 1-5 trading days.
i think Nov. is in for a pretty choppy month. started the month down over 2% - and according to bespoke stats means we should end the month down some more. but don't think we get there that simply, as the less noisy S&P P&F charts show some technical damage, but still a pretty bullish pattern.
I was referring to a time frame of about 20 mins...I never hold anything overnight, been gap burned too many times...bobo wrote:Typical wave 4 action. Lower lows to follow. Perhaps a bottom around November 10th at 1180ish.
bushwaffle wrote:this consolidation is bullish...maybe just waiting on FOMC news..
Wavemeister: bingo, and nosebleed is >2800waverider wrote:Sustainable trend = nyadv > 2000, .... Complex RSI settings, how did you come up with them?Al_Dente wrote:POP
You should trade /es aka e-mini. No gaps to worry about ever.bushwaffle wrote:I was referring to a time frame of about 20 mins...I never hold anything overnight, been gap burned too many times...bobo wrote:Typical wave 4 action. Lower lows to follow. Perhaps a bottom around November 10th at 1180ish.
bushwaffle wrote:this consolidation is bullish...maybe just waiting on FOMC news..
Sounds spot on. This morning's Zig-Zag stopped short of my 1245 target so the next up leg will probably stop short of my 1254 target. It's possible (i'm hoping) it can stretch to 1263 but imagine we'd need a nice news item to get the additional buyers to bite.pady wrote:Thanks Strike for another confirm on my thoughts. I feel we are doing a slow B till FOMC and we will see a C up after that to 50% retrace of fall from 1292-1215. Which comes to 1250 range.StrikePrice wrote:I think we have completed the A of an A-B-C up so take your profits after seeing 2-push down with the B wave we're in now and live to fight another day. All success comes from failure, so be a learner not a quitter.ricster3 wrote:Shorted this here with puts worth $500, do or die (basically all I have left in trading account)... if QE3 is here, I'm completely done with this.