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To use DBV or YEN to measure carry trade, one need to understand risk associated with uncertainty of exchange rate. I believe in direction of DBV represents Bond pro move, but since central bank got all the say on the short term exchange rate this could hurt the bond king also.Al_Dente wrote:PAGING Baron von BullBear52x
What do u make of this?
DBV is non-correlating with just about everything (except China, which is excluded from G-10)
Eyeball look-back shows this can be bullish or bearish. Strip away the correlation studies; here’s just DBV and SPX
There are only a few times when SPX diverges (pink boxes)
Then it is SPX, not DBV, that gets back into line. In other words, DBV liquidity is the boss
But it looks like it can take a couple-ish weeks for SPX to re-align w DBV
Your thoughts please? Newbies c wiki for G-10 info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_Ten_(economic)
And more here: http://etfdb.com/etf/DBV/
Bond auctions next week (10 yr wed, 30 yr thurs). I imagine weakness ought to continue ahead of those.Al_Dente wrote:I’ll not be bearish unless this one does a surprise reversal.
It looks like it is on its way down to test the 200sma support, which may or may not hold.
Elliot Wavers should be all over this chart.
saw those "distractions" too, thanks for the vote for science, rather than a vote for extremismuempel wrote:Joe, as to zerohedge - do you know what happened Friday? Jack Welch (ex CEO GE), who is almost senile, says Friday's employment report is a conspiracy. And zerohedge made similar claims. People who make wild allegations about statistics without knowing how they are compiled are totally negligible. They remind me of guys who say that evolution is a lie straight from the pit of Hell. Shouting out nonsense does not boost credibility in any field.joe-gamma wrote:nondenominational and nonpartisan, But it is what it is
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-0 ... ecord-high
How 'bout a Song to seranade the saturday speculations:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOJHSrxH ... re=related
Al_Dente wrote:PAGING Baron von BullBear52x
What do u make of this?
DBV is non-correlating with just about everything (except China, which is excluded from G-10)
Eyeball look-back shows this can be bullish or bearish. Strip away the correlation studies; here’s just DBV and SPX
There are only a few times when SPX diverges (pink boxes)
Then it is SPX, not DBV, that gets back into line. In other words, DBV liquidity is the boss
But it looks like it can take a couple-ish weeks for SPX to re-align w DBV
Your thoughts please? Newbies c wiki for G-10 info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_Ten_(economic)
And more here: http://etfdb.com/etf/DBV/
something to kill time what leads.joe-gamma wrote:Al_Dente wrote:PAGING Baron von BullBear52x
What do u make of this?
DBV is non-correlating with just about everything (except China, which is excluded from G-10)
Eyeball look-back shows this can be bullish or bearish. Strip away the correlation studies; here’s just DBV and SPX
There are only a few times when SPX diverges (pink boxes)
Then it is SPX, not DBV, that gets back into line. In other words, DBV liquidity is the boss
But it looks like it can take a couple-ish weeks for SPX to re-align w DBV
Your thoughts please? Newbies c wiki for G-10 info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_Ten_(economic)
And more here: http://etfdb.com/etf/DBV/
Thanks wise AL...only looking at the sp/dbv chart, would it be possible that spy leads ((by 1-3 weeks) in this fed-driven climate?
here is smore more mulah for ya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVvFaB389cs
I use vix for short term intraday trade is very helpful, the last 20 days it's still do the opposite. longer term I would not count much but you can feel the fear is high with higher vix, helpful to initiate bears move if you play the evil side.Harapa wrote:Do VIX and equities always move in opposite direction?
Are low readings in VIX bearish for equities?
This chart tries to answer both questions.
Answer to both questions is "not necessarily".
-Between 96-98 (Box A) SP500 gained ~50 % despite an increase of 272% in VIX in the same period. Similarly in ~2/3Q of 2007(Box C) SP500 gained 13% despite a gain of 271% in VIX.
-VIX has been even lower than current value in the past [~92-96, and Box B)]. Both times SP500 showed a positive return.
-I also have a setup using VIX for intraday trading that is doing well but I wonder how it would do when VIX and SP500 are no longer anti correlated (as is the case now).BullBear52x wrote:I use vix for short term intraday trade is very helpful, the last 20 days it's still do the opposite. longer term I would not count much but you can feel the fear is high with higher vix, helpful to initiate bears move if you play the evil side.Harapa wrote:Do VIX and equities always move in opposite direction?
Are low readings in VIX bearish for equities?
This chart tries to answer both questions.
Answer to both questions is "not necessarily".
-Between 96-98 (Box A) SP500 gained ~50 % despite an increase of 272% in VIX in the same period. Similarly in ~2/3Q of 2007(Box C) SP500 gained 13% despite a gain of 271% in VIX.
-VIX has been even lower than current value in the past [~92-96, and Box B)]. Both times SP500 showed a positive return.
joejoe-gamma wrote:Thanks AL...only looking at the sp/dbv chart, would it be possible that spy leads ((by 1-3 weeks) in this fed-driven climate?Al_Dente wrote: DBV bla bla
here is smore more mulah for ya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVvFaB389cs
I looked at those, nice charts, the time flame is too big of a window for me. I don't use vix in real time longer then 15min. time frame.Harapa wrote:BullBear52x wrote:-I also have a setup using VIX for intraday trading that is doing well but I wonder how it would do when VIX and SP500 are no longer anti correlated (as is the case now).Harapa wrote:
-I think it is just as useful for the long term as it is for the intraday provided you have a good setup. I posted some examples of useful setups for the long term investment on the subscriber's site. Take a look if you haven't already. In addition, I am working on a setup that will work whether VIX and SP500 are correlated positively or negatively.
Joe do u have a chart of this? what time frame 5 min? 15min? etcjoe-gamma wrote: studies for reversion intraday? something like a PPO (1,21,1) on one:vix trade may have given an early warning to exit longs on Friday am and also on sept 14, sept 25th etc.....not sure which period would give good signals without whipsaw and without leaving too much profit into the swing trade..