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Re: 11/30/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:53 pm
by Cobra
SigmaEcho wrote:this is the new target, 120.0?
right, but the daily phantom bar sometimes take very long time to fulfill, so it's not as reliable as the intraday bar.

Re: 11/30/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:53 pm
by newbie_77
looks like you got your wish :D
my first fibo trace just for you :D better getout of that short at the 50% retrace :D beside that who knows its all luck of the draw :D
Me XMan wrote:Spike down is waht I like right now :D
newbie_77 wrote:big volume bar on 1 min ..... something must be happening.. soon...

Re: 11/30/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:54 pm
by Al_Dente
BullBear52x wrote:
Al_Dente wrote:
BullBear52x wrote:
Al_Dente wrote:
BullBear52x wrote:Double Tops: Risk/Reward zone, the logic behind it is the trap bulls from last peak is dying to get even and stay safe this time around after losing confidence from last move. after long night pray " god please if I got my money back this time I will never touch it again" mentality :lol:
Cool, thanks SLV has that big old gap of 11/16 that it couldn’t fill today… on third try….It’s now in the “Bermuda Triangle” zone
I can understand the need of silver and copper, gold? I never understand the logic in trading it. me no metal guy.
we need all bright and shiny things
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=FCX&p= ... =249206436

Re: 11/30/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:56 pm
by MrMiyagi
Special request here to all chart posters; Can you please use a white background?

Thanks.

Re: 11/30/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:56 pm
by viewer
Cobra wrote:
SigmaEcho wrote:this is the new target, 120.0?
right, but the daily phantom bar sometimes take very long time to fulfill, so it's not as reliable as the intraday bar.
Why it is not shown on the none of the 60m, 15m, and 5m chart?



PS. I'll sign up tonight.

Re: 11/30/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:58 pm
by Al_Dente
ultramarine wrote:
Xian wrote:
uempel wrote:I did not draw this chart for you guys, but for me. That's why it's a real mess. Shows my tests of the 1240 area, shows that 1240 sure is a pivot. Means that it's unlikely SPX keeps up its vertical trajectory here. Pause, sideways move, dip, whatever. Bye guys, I need some food.
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Hey that Kandinsky has a rising wedge on the right hand side, doesn't it? Definitely looks bearish!
:lol: :lol:

Re: 11/30/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:59 pm
by CMT
CognitiveDissonance wrote:off topic, but, anyone have any idea where mortgage rates in the US will be heading? Trying to figure out if it's time to refi or not.

Thanks!
Lower, I'd wait. If you believe this market is going to crash and US bonds are the safe haven still... then a sweet rate is in your future. I've placed the same bet on my 5% mortgage

Re: 11/30/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:00 pm
by taggard
newbie_77 wrote:master cobra,
you sound emotional. you are expecting :D ....

so far i have learned following since i joined this board and started following master cobra... which was not very long ago:
1. i learned to control emotional based trading :D
2. stopped front-running
3. follow the trend and get out when you have made small gains :D ... don't be greedy.
4. what goes up must come down :D and when it comes down it does bounce up again :D
Cobra wrote:nothing to say, this really is a nice market, simply gap up every day and do nothing. I expect today to be different though because the 3rd time is the charm.
you may eventually want to examine the part about "made small gains". my worst problem is not staying in trades that are working well. the difference in performance over time is huge--if you stick with the trades that work. interestingly you note that you stopped front running (good work) but in a sense "get out when you have small gains" is also "front running". in both cases an assumption is made about the future that controls current action.

the question i have for myself is why am i not letting the market stop me out more on a good trend? Frankly i think this is not rational on my part as the evidence demonstrates otherwise. so the idea is to slowly stretch out the moves. not suggesting rash action just slowly doing this. my data shows i often leave 50% of the trade on the table--the trades often work since they are extended away from the trend at exit (good) but miss the really profitable 2nd part of the trade (bad).

Re: 11/30/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:00 pm
by Cobra
viewer wrote:
Cobra wrote:
SigmaEcho wrote:this is the new target, 120.0?
right, but the daily phantom bar sometimes take very long time to fulfill, so it's not as reliable as the intraday bar.
Why it is not shown on the none of the 60m, 15m, and 5m chart?



PS. I'll sign up tonight.
Thanks for the PS. :)

I don't know, sometimes the phantom just doesn't show on intraday chart and in this case the phantom is not as reliable. It's just my observation.

Re: 11/30/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:01 pm
by Me XMan
My stop loss is $124.55
BTW, BO is on the tube drumming for his jobs bill.
newbie_77 wrote:looks like you got your wish :D
my first fibo trace just for you :D better getout of that short at the 50% retrace :D beside that who knows its all luck of the draw :D
Me XMan wrote:Spike down is waht I like right now :D
newbie_77 wrote:big volume bar on 1 min ..... something must be happening.. soon...

Re: 11/30/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:04 pm
by Apple
Tip-toe tvix @ 46.13, leap @ 44.8 to 45.4 8-)

Re: 11/30/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:08 pm
by knock
where are trader vix gang? we need your voice.

Re: 11/30/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:08 pm
by newbie_77
hello taggard,
thank you. what you said is very true.
i bought SPXU for 13.90 on 11.15 but exited on 11.17 when it reached 15.30 .. had i waited couple more days could have sold for 17+ basically gave more than 50% .. which is basically what's happening to me :D
taggard wrote:
newbie_77 wrote:master cobra,
you sound emotional. you are expecting :D ....

so far i have learned following since i joined this board and started following master cobra... which was not very long ago:
1. i learned to control emotional based trading :D
2. stopped front-running
3. follow the trend and get out when you have made small gains :D ... don't be greedy.
4. what goes up must come down :D and when it comes down it does bounce up again :D
Cobra wrote:nothing to say, this really is a nice market, simply gap up every day and do nothing. I expect today to be different though because the 3rd time is the charm.
you may eventually want to examine the part about "made small gains". my worst problem is not staying in trades that are working well. the difference in performance over time is huge--if you stick with the trades that work. interestingly you note that you stopped front running (good work) but in a sense "get out when you have small gains" is also "front running". in both cases an assumption is made about the future that controls current action.

the question i have for myself is why am i not letting the market stop me out more on a good trend? Frankly i think this is not rational on my part as the evidence demonstrates otherwise. so the idea is to slowly stretch out the moves. not suggesting rash action just slowly doing this. my data shows i often leave 50% of the trade on the table--the trades often work since they are extended away from the trend at exit (good) but miss the really profitable 2nd part of the trade (bad).

Re: 11/30/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:09 pm
by MrMiyagi
Sold my SLW holdings, I am sure it will go higher but I have already booked a decent profit on it.

Re: 11/30/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:11 pm
by BullBear52x
XLP stand out the most today.

Re: 11/30/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:12 pm
by newbie_77
volume surge and biggest bar. there has to be some pullback :D or consolidation. [ i also learned this from master cobra ]

Re: 11/30/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:13 pm
by Cobra
good, finally picks up some strength, but bulls need a decisive breakout.

Re: 11/30/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:14 pm
by Petsamo
BullBear52x wrote:XLP stand out the most today.
Are you kidding? XLP is up only 1.96%

Re: 11/30/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:15 pm
by HighRev
SPX Monthly Provisional
spxMonthlyProvisional.png

Re: 11/30/2011 Intraday Watering

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:17 pm
by BullBear52x
Petsamo wrote:
BullBear52x wrote:XLP stand out the most today.
Are you kidding? XLP is up only 1.96%
TA internals side of thing I meant.