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Re: 07/02/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:39 pm
by TraderGirl
Something is up with treasuries...TMF (or TLT)....
Thought we could have seen the highs in TMF, but forming a triangle, waiting to see where it breaks out...could we be in a wave 4 headed up to 5?
Re: 07/02/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:39 pm
by KeiZai
Hi guys I found two good stocks with daily squeeze
Goldman (in rectangle)
And apple btw apple with squeeze first time since 2010 (fired at the time of writing)
Re: 07/02/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:40 pm
by SWalsh
MrMiyagi wrote:SPX 1500 here we come!!
Did that revelation of what the mkt really is now make everyone sulk today?
I am 2/3rd through the book now and I can't look at the price as a value of anything now that I know what is going on. Overvalued? Undervalued? 1500? 500? None of it matters. The bots want it higher so people play. They caused the bull mkt in commodities. The SEC refusing to mandate a degree of time the bid-offer remains in must have lined some powerful pockets.
EDIT: Here's a very small window of how the endless loop of selling begins because they don't know for sure that their code will not suddenly trade, and it might act before one of your buttons gets hit:
http://www.businessinsider.com/a-trader ... ker-2012-6
Re: 07/02/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:40 pm
by Al_Dente
not sure how far this thing can go, with bonds diverging so much, again
folks need to sell more bonds to buy stock
right now it’s all squeezing the shorts
Re: 07/02/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:42 pm
by Cobra
support.
Re: 07/02/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:43 pm
by TraderGirl
Conversely, I thought we needed to see a lower low in FXE...??
Did it truncate? or have do we need to see another leg down...??
Re: 07/02/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:43 pm
by BlackThought
SPX to the moon!!
Re: 07/02/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:44 pm
by snakehead
TraderGirl wrote:Something is up with treasuries...TMF (or TLT)....
Thought we could have seen the highs in TMF, but forming a triangle, waiting to see where it breaks out...could we be in a wave 4 headed up to 5?
You might just be onto something there, TG.
I have been watching TLT for some days now. If it is indeed forming a pennant (on many different time scales now),
then something major is about to happen.
Re: 07/02/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:46 pm
by pezhead9000
Today's top Block sell on strength: SHY (1-3yr treas)
MF: $-175.42
B: $0.00
S: $175.42
B/S: 0.00
http://online.wsj.com/mdc/public/page/2 ... stcalendar
Re: 07/02/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:47 pm
by KeiZai
Any volunteer who will make poll? I think lot of bullishness is flying around

good time to make a poll

TIA
Re: 07/02/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:48 pm
by Petsamo
BlackThought wrote:SPX to the moon!!
It needs to get green first
Re: 07/02/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:49 pm
by BlackThought
Petsamo wrote:BlackThought wrote:SPX to the moon!!
It needs to get green first
like cobra said, a red monday = good news for bulls
Re: 07/02/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:50 pm
by stucap
snakehead wrote:TraderGirl wrote:Something is up with treasuries...TMF (or TLT)....
Thought we could have seen the highs in TMF, but forming a triangle, waiting to see where it breaks out...could we be in a wave 4 headed up to 5?
You might just be onto something there, TG.
I have been watching TLT for some days now. If it is indeed forming a pennant (on many different time scales now),
then something major is about to happen.
Yields can't rise. Government will keep them low until 2014 as stated. Operation Twist will keep the long end down so we can all refinance our mortgages if the banks will let us. So equity will decouple at some point.
Re: 07/02/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:59 pm
by Al_Dente
pezhead9000 wrote:Today's top Block sell on strength: SHY (1-3yr treas)...[/url]
great info on SHY
thanks pez
Re: 07/02/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:07 pm
by Petsamo
I see an H&S or double top on SPY 1 min
Re: 07/02/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:12 pm
by stucap
Petsamo wrote:I see an H&S or double top on SPY 1 min
i see bullish consolidation under the 100 day moving average (simple) and light volume. bears have zero chances.
Re: 07/02/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:15 pm
by tigerwang9999
want to buy UVXY and TZA if we are in green today.. any comments? Thanks
Re: 07/02/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:17 pm
by Mr. T
Petsamo wrote:BlackThought wrote:SPX to the moon!!
It needs to get green first
Not if it just gaps up off the charts and lands on the moon.
From what i understand, after the moon is Mars......... we may disband NASA and outsource space exploration to Ben.
Re: 07/02/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:17 pm
by SWalsh
KENA wrote:SWalsh wrote:Has anyone read and thought of that weekend post about how the computers are now trading and changed the market?
I'm not going to waste 2 hours putting a post together with more of this if sticking heads in the sand is what people here wish to do.
Here's another sliver. The Rise of the Machine (the trading platforms) created the Dot-Com bubble. They push mkts up to drive funds to trade them. Then it broke due to absurd prices and some fundamentals being realized.
Sound familiar? Anyone?....Anyone?...Buehler?
They decided to take down the old boys of Wall Street with their machines. Wall Street was ultimately smarter. They offered them far more money that they thought they'd see and took control of the entire place.
Yes read that and some others and a couple of good ones. Thanks
I'm 7 hours into the 11 hour read and this is eye opening. Very few systems day trades for profits to speak of. There is a "maker-taker" commission structure. They are all making markets and trying to get the other guy to be the taker so they get paid a commission and he pays one. Taker pays more than maker gets paid and that's why the exchanges love this. But it is no longer a market in the sense of what a market is. Crush grandma's pension fund? Why?
"BECAUSE IT WAS WRECKABLE". This is really what men and women fight and die for now? It is literally a casino of 70% - 80%+ of volume on any given day with machines try to be the dealer on each trade, and speed is EVERYTHING. I believe the time stated was 6 nano-seconds.
It might have been that SEC regulation on the routing of orders that allowed this "trickery", but I'll know when I finish by tomorrow afternoon.
I'm beginning to think those massive, single pings that stand alone are seen because there is no more activity at a given price level, so the mkt must be moved.
Re: 07/02/2012 Live Update
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:18 pm
by KeiZai
Could be triangle in russell