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07/29/2011 Intraday Watering

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Cobra wrote:interesting, 3 phantom bars today all pointing down.
No such prints on my streamer (tradestation). I've seen testaments about phantom candles as signaling for a target, but I wonder why is it that some streamers show them while some don't.

The bears are crowding the market today, showing P/C ratio of 1.24 all day. It's hard to crash the market lower w/ numbers like these.
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Cobra wrote:interesting, 3 phantom bars today all pointing down.
LOL. Now we have ones on the upside. Nutty.
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should be much clear on the 1 min chart that this indeed is 1-2-3 breakdown, right?
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Re: 07/29/2011 Intraday Watering

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pidge66 wrote:
Cobra wrote:interesting, 3 phantom bars today all pointing down.
No such prints on my streamer (tradestation). I've seen testaments about phantom candles as signaling for a target, but I wonder why is it that some streamers show them while some don't.

The bears are crowding the market today, showing P/C ratio of 1.24 all day. It's hard to crash the market lower w/ numbers like these.
crash? I bet most people are expecting firework after ceiling deal. ;)

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Re: 07/29/2011 Intraday Watering

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my interpretation of 1-2-3, (which may not be right)
first it is a reversal pattern. we need to see a main trend and need to spot reversal. then look for higher low or higher high.
in the first chart (scenario 1), i take yesterday high to today's open as main trend. 11:00 today as 1. 1-2-3 is off since 2 didn't make a higher high.

in the 2nd chart, i took today's open to 11:00 as trend. 11-1:00 as counter-trend 1. it is 50% so fibo requirement still meets. 2:00 is a lower high to be qualified as my 2. so i am looking for a break down of 1:00 low as a formation of 1-2-3.
bear in mind. the "trend" itself is corrective. the implosion may not be impressive.
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99er wrote:Go Get'em Karl

The House controls the purse strings. Period. If you don't like that it's just tough crap - that's The Constitution and there isn't a thing you can do about it. The House is saying no more credit - we will live within our means.

Your two choices, and President Obama's, are to either:

Accept this and live within it. You then have a few months to negotiate exactly how you're going to get there and what mix of tax increases and cuts will take place. Yes, it will suck. Sorry. The math is what it is. See the chart below.

Keep playing your damn Senatorial and "Kingship" imperial games. Your time to whine expires Tuesday if you do that, because you cannot force The House to pass anything, and if there's no bill then there's no more debt. Period, end of discussion, full stop, the budget is balanced immediately by default.

Pick one Dingy Harry and the rest of your Senatorial clowncar brigade. Ditto for you Obama. There ain't jack and crap you do about it - these are the facts, and you can either agree to a balanced budget that is negotiated within the next few months or you get one right now.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=190985
I'm personally rooting for the government to shut down for a month or more. I'd love to see the reactions of people who scream they want no government as they watch their retirement go up in smoke, as unemployment sky rockets and we enter a depression. That's when we'll be able to separate the men from the boys, the neanderthals from the homo sapiens
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Another reversal watch on 4H SPX futures:

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Here on RUT:

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And NDX:

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And Oil:

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soku wrote:my interpretation of 1-2-3, (which may not be right)
first it is a reversal pattern. we need to see a main trend and need to spot reversal. then look for higher low or higher high.
in the first chart (scenario 1), i take yesterday high to today's open as main trend. 11:00 today as 1. 1-2-3 is off since 2 didn't make a higher high.

in the 2nd chart, i took today's open to 11:00 as trend. 11-1:00 as counter-trend 1. it is 50% so fibo requirement still meets. 2:00 is a lower high to be qualified as my 2. so i am looking for a break down of 1:00 low as a formation of 1-2-3.
bear in mind. the "trend" itself is corrective. the implosion may not be impressive.
agree, I think we have the same interpretation. I just showed you a smaller 1-2-3. The bigger 1-2-3 on the upside, we have the same view. So let's see whether they work or not. Just from my experiences, they don't work mostly. Maybe I'm used to 80%+ winning rate stuff, around 50% winning rate stuff would make me feel it fails every time. I don't think it has 70% winning rate, really. 60% or 51% winning rate, the most. :lol:

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Keep it simple folks, trend is down, sell the rally is still intact, trend is your friend, don't catch a falling knife.

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99er wrote:Go Get'em Karl

The House controls the purse strings. Period. If you don't like that it's just tough crap - that's The Constitution and there isn't a thing you can do about it. The House is saying no more credit - we will live within our means.

Your two choices, and President Obama's, are to either:

Accept this and live within it. You then have a few months to negotiate exactly how you're going to get there and what mix of tax increases and cuts will take place. Yes, it will suck. Sorry. The math is what it is. See the chart below.

Keep playing your damn Senatorial and "Kingship" imperial games. Your time to whine expires Tuesday if you do that, because you cannot force The House to pass anything, and if there's no bill then there's no more debt. Period, end of discussion, full stop, the budget is balanced immediately by default.

Pick one Dingy Harry and the rest of your Senatorial clowncar brigade. Ditto for you Obama. There ain't jack and crap you do about it - these are the facts, and you can either agree to a balanced budget that is negotiated within the next few months or you get one right now.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=190985
Why Obama?
<<<Let’s start from the beginning. Raising the debt ceiling is a routine legislative matter. The debt ceiling was raised 18 times under Ronald Reagan; nine times under George H. W. Bush; six times under Bill Clinton; and seven times under George W. Bush. Sometimes the opposition party will use the occasion to score some political points.>>>>
Thanks for all these previous presidents who left him presents.
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1-2-3 breakdown plus descending triangle breakdown, i think it has chances to win this time. this is just a very small 1-2-3. we have a much bigger 1-2-3 to watch.
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[ rpccharts, please check your PM ]
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Tabby wrote:
99er wrote:Go Get'em Karl

The House controls the purse strings. Period. If you don't like that it's just tough crap - that's The Constitution and there isn't a thing you can do about it. The House is saying no more credit - we will live within our means.

Your two choices, and President Obama's, are to either:

Accept this and live within it. You then have a few months to negotiate exactly how you're going to get there and what mix of tax increases and cuts will take place. Yes, it will suck. Sorry. The math is what it is. See the chart below.

Keep playing your damn Senatorial and "Kingship" imperial games. Your time to whine expires Tuesday if you do that, because you cannot force The House to pass anything, and if there's no bill then there's no more debt. Period, end of discussion, full stop, the budget is balanced immediately by default.

Pick one Dingy Harry and the rest of your Senatorial clowncar brigade. Ditto for you Obama. There ain't jack and crap you do about it - these are the facts, and you can either agree to a balanced budget that is negotiated within the next few months or you get one right now.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=190985
Why Obama?
Let’s start from the beginning. Raising the debt ceiling is a routine legislative matter. The debt ceiling was raised 18 times under Ronald Reagan; nine times under George H. W. Bush; six times under Bill Clinton; and seven times under George W. Bush. Sometimes the opposition party will use the occasion to score some political points.
Thanks for all these previous presidents who left him presents.
Man....second mortgage your house for good time never good idea. people are so worried on their own lost like 401K retirement and benefits, so it's OK to go all out in debt? anyways just tired of hearing this debt politic talk. peace and cheers!
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Re: 07/29/2011 Intraday Watering

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descending triangle text book target, should be enough to breakdown the bigger 1-2-3 outside. let's see. today's close is much better, not much selling. :lol:
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Re: 07/29/2011 Intraday Watering

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Cobra wrote:
soku wrote:my interpretation of 1-2-3, (which may not be right)
first it is a reversal pattern. we need to see a main trend and need to spot reversal. then look for higher low or higher high.
in the first chart (scenario 1), i take yesterday high to today's open as main trend. 11:00 today as 1. 1-2-3 is off since 2 didn't make a higher high.

in the 2nd chart, i took today's open to 11:00 as trend. 11-1:00 as counter-trend 1. it is 50% so fibo requirement still meets. 2:00 is a lower high to be qualified as my 2. so i am looking for a break down of 1:00 low as a formation of 1-2-3.
bear in mind. the "trend" itself is corrective. the implosion may not be impressive.
agree, I think we have the same interpretation. I just showed you a smaller 1-2-3. The bigger 1-2-3 on the upside, we have the same view. So let's see whether they work or not. Just from my experiences, they don't work mostly. Maybe I'm used to 80%+ winning rate stuff, around 50% winning rate stuff would make me feel it fails every time. I don't think it has 70% winning rate, really. 60% or 51% winning rate, the most. :lol:
i think bulk says if it forms, there is 70% chance to bank 20%+ gain.
i bet 1 beer, 1-2-3 on my scenario 2 will not form today. spy may very likely be staying at high 129 level and waiting for the debt ceiling vote scheduled on 6:00 today.
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Like to see ES 1250 Monday....

Airlines some up 4% today ... nice
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yesterday we discussed about what to play if debt fight concluded.
i think we need a new poll. if debt ceiling passed tonight, but chinese rating agent still downgraded us debt monday as they said yesterday, what will happen?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/dagong-sa ... rly-monday

"We will definitely cut the rating, regardless whether there will be a compromise. It has already dealt a blow to investors' confidence," Guan said. He said it could slash the rating to D if Washington defaults.

Economists estimate that China has parked about 70 percent of its $3.2 trillion foreign exchange reserves in U.S. assets.
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