Me XMan wrote:Try one more time. Sell-stop at $124.80.
Cobra wrote:indeed it's up, now watch blue line, another failure there would not be fun anymore.
In a bear trend, assume bearish outcome. In a bull trend, assume bullish outcome.
I learned that somewhere but I cannot remember where.
Are we in Bear Trend or Bull Trend? 6 straight down followed by 4 straight up????? I am with Dow Trader on this one which is scalp until a real trend is identified then get on board and use TA for setups.
newbie_77 wrote:hello cougar,
if you donot mind me asking. do you construct these spread at the same time or you take certain position and build the spread later dates?
I used the UPRO 1 min chart, not to day trade, but to slowly construct a new time spread:
Long SPY Dec 17 puts
Short SPY Dec 09 puts
UPRO update:
you're long SPY DEC 117 puts?
short SPY DEC 109 puts?
a bearish debit of .50?
NO!I am afraid my previous post was incomplete!
I bought SPY125 Dec 17 puts
...and:
I sold (to open) SPY125 Dec O9 puts
…where Dec 17 and Dec 09 are the expiration dates and 125 is the strike (for both legs)
That makes it a time spread.
Progressively! That is the whole trick: to buy cheap and sell expensive.
If you construct a “Put Spread” you buy where the puts are cheap (i.e. close to your charted tops) and sell (to open) the short arm when those puts are expensive (i.e. close to your charted lows of the day).
You can do that in several rounds, during the day, when the price oscillates.
Ideally, at the end of the day both arms should be in the green! From then on, if it is a “time spread” the fast decay of the short position will work in your favor!
Progressively! That is the whole trick: to buy cheap and sell expensive.
If you construct a “Put Spread” you buy where the puts are cheap (i.e. close to your charted tops) and sell (to open) the short arm when those puts are expensive (i.e. close to your charted lows of the day).
You can do that in several rounds, during the day, when the price oscillates.
Ideally, at the end of the day both arms should be in the green! From then on, if it is a “time spread” the fast decay of the short position will work in your favor!
I said another failure would be no fun anymore. I don't want to see breakdown here, please cannot you hold for just 10 more minutes?
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This what I don't see traders focusing in weekly candle and daily candles and I prefered to post it just in case
a clear support resistance in candles patterns can be shown in many setups and this is one of them :
an undecided cadle or more followed by 2 candle with both of them have more 50% from there high to low high and I highlited some examples that I traded them for long time before ... they act most of the time correctly specially with the first visit and market can overshoot them but if you know how to trade them with proper stops it would be very trading tool IMO
note : resistance is resistance until proven otherwise
paging dowtrader and anyone else who's interested...been looking at the USD/CHF chart, and this is what i got. looks like a double bottom bounce, target of around .9220'ish or .9145(breakout level) - .9070(double bottom?) = .0075....0075 + .9145 = .9220 (target of double bottom).
it also happens to correspond with a greater uptrend line that was recently broke yesterday. so maybe a kiss off of the trend line before USD falls off and equities rallies into the new year.
so zig zag is in play. zag down tomorrow with USD/CHF touching off .9220, then off to the races as USD/CHF as has already clearly broken the 8/9/11 low trend line...dollar fades and equities rally. <shrugs> big picture guess.
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Revisit to the upper trend line before heading lower?
Larger trend line clearly broken.
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