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12/20/2012 Live Update

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TWT wrote:ES Globex: Scary move. The fifth of the ED has truncated
TWT, i don't do EW so could you tell me what that means in English that an old man might understand? Please. :P
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/es is holding right above 20day sma
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I had a bad feeling for several days now. all of it came from the options field:
first, the vix spx divergence cobra tracked, secondly the flatness of the vix term structure as observed by the vix:vxv ratio and mentioned on ZH yesterday, and thirdly my vxo:rvx ratio never gave the 10 to 40 ema crossover confirmation and turned back up:
vxo rvx ratio.png
what really worries me here is the levels. both the vix:vxv and the vxo:rvx are at levels that were associated with bottoms during the rally from the 2009 lows, so the question is if the downside is limited or are we moving into a new regime, one with elevated levels, which can be associated with a bear market?

if anyone can post a long term vix:vxv chart it would be appreciated as i don't have a stockcharts account.
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Re: 12/20/2012 Live Update

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Al_Dente wrote:
bear fire.png
That is too funny, boss! :lol: :lol: :lol:

And you say it is your kids who come up with this stuff? :roll:
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Re: 12/20/2012 Live Update

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Cobra wrote:by the way, now I know who are really bears. Those who're exited now are real bears.

I'm happy because a down market could draw more readers to this forum, so I always like the market that fluctuate a lot. I hate dull market or simply up and up and up market, nobody interested in our forum anymore.
Yeah, Cobra. I noticed this when we had the last decline. Your competition suffered considerably while you stayed pretty solid.

Thanks to Harapa...I'm short as of Thursday (fingers crossed).

But not that I doubted King Cobra :mrgreen: I just figured that this was one of those rare events...
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Hi,
Go here, it is totally FREE -- http://www.freestockcharts.com/
ocassional observer wrote:I had a bad feeling for several days now. all of it came from the options field:
first, the vix spx divergence cobra tracked, secondly the flatness of the vix term structure as observed by the vix:vxv ratio and mentioned on ZH yesterday, and thirdly my vxo:rvx ratio never gave the 10 to 40 ema crossover confirmation and turned back up:
vxo rvx ratio.png
what really worries me here is the levels. both the vix:vxv and the vxo:rvx are at levels that were associated with bottoms during the rally from the 2009 lows, so the question is if the downside is limited or are we moving into a new regime, one with elevated levels, which can be associated with a bear market?

if anyone can post a long term vix:vxv chart it would be appreciated as i don't have a stockcharts account.
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Re: 12/20/2012 Live Update

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Andrew rules again (ES):
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TraderJoe wrote:Hi,
Go here, it is totally FREE -- http://www.freestockcharts.com/
ocassional observer wrote:I had a bad feeling for several days now. all of it came from the options field:
first, the vix spx divergence cobra tracked, secondly the flatness of the vix term structure as observed by the vix:vxv ratio and mentioned on ZH yesterday, and thirdly my vxo:rvx ratio never gave the 10 to 40 ema crossover confirmation and turned back up:
vxo rvx ratio.png
what really worries me here is the levels. both the vix:vxv and the vxo:rvx are at levels that were associated with bottoms during the rally from the 2009 lows, so the question is if the downside is limited or are we moving into a new regime, one with elevated levels, which can be associated with a bear market?

if anyone can post a long term vix:vxv chart it would be appreciated as i don't have a stockcharts account.
i have an account there, but they don't have ratios which is a pitty.
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Re: 12/20/2012 Live Update

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Cobra,

do you tinik is it likely we will retest the low of ES flash crash along the day ?
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Re: 12/20/2012 Live Update

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ES Globex: The nocturnal 50 points drop is a serious warning of a potential trend reversal
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Re: 12/20/2012 Live Update

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I guess I am lucky today, I had a gut feeling the GOP would take the market down today so about 10 minutes befor the market closed yesterday, I bought a bunch of January SPY 142 puts. Today should make them look pretty good :D :D :D
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TWT wrote:ES Globex: The nocturnal 50 points drop is a serious warning of a potential trend reversal
Nice chart!
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Re: 12/20/2012 Live Update

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ES looks like a bear flag formation :mrgreen:
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Re: 12/20/2012 Live Update

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Last night I noted the /ES had stabilized just above its 20 Day SMA and now I note that the SPY is doing the same. We may bounce from here but this level will probably not hold..
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SPY if neckline is breached, very likely of double top will play out :mrgreen:
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Re: 12/20/2012 Live Update

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rusrod wrote:
Al_Dente wrote:
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That is too funny, boss! :lol: :lol: :lol:
And you say it is your kids who come up with this stuff? :roll:
:D
g-kids
hey nice to c u on board :lol:
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Selling [email protected] in premarket to see if I get a bite.
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Out of Bounds wrote:Selling [email protected] in premarket to see if I get a bite.
u selling some or all?
U LUCKY DUDE U
:mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Al_Dente wrote:
Out of Bounds wrote:Selling [email protected] in premarket to see if I get a bite.
u selling some or all?
U LUCKY DUDE U
:mrgreen: :mrgreen:
ALL, I can see it on levelII
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